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I am wondering what the minimal monthly data plan cost would be to have this working continuously on your street. In a suburb, surely 20 phones would be enoug
by nateburke 7y ago
I am wondering what the minimal monthly data plan cost would be to have this working continuously on your street.
In a suburb, surely 20 phones would be enough, no? At $30/ month maybe somewhere between 500 and 600 per month?
- nannal 7y agoYou don't need lots of cell phone plans, just one with a wifi hotspot.
- eli 7y agoThough that assumes they haven’t implemented even trivial filtering of bogus data.
- pjc50 7y agoJust do it on wifi. With a bit of spoofing you could "move" all the phones up and down the street while they're in your basement.
- judge2020 7y agoGoogle spun-off Niantic and I hear they have pretty good anti-GPS spoofing algorithms/NNs (for Pokemon Go), I wouldn't be surprised if they use the same or similar tech for GMaps.
- lanerobertlane 7y agoAs someone who uses a spoofer app for Pokemon Go, the anti-spoofing is pretty limited. There is a "you can't go 500 miles in 10 seconds" style check, that checks your displacement against your previous position periodically to makes sure it's realistic, something that makes sure your GPS is always drifting a little, like a normal phone GPS would report (which the spoofer app builds in), and other little things such as if it has camera permissions and you take a photo in game, the location in the photo metadata matches your in game location. I usually play in my house in the North of England and regularly spoof the app to be in London, New York, Paris Mall or Tokyo.
- judge2020 7y agoInteresting, guess I shouldn't have such high expectations.. But I still would think G Maps has a system to deal with spoofing; maybe they weight your data based on how reliable/valid your data is over time.
- heyflyguy 7y agoCould you run one decently sized single board computer with 15 android virtual machines instead?
- beefield 7y agoI guess you do not need a data plan. Or even phones. Just spin up n android emulators and spoof them with the gps data you want? (Disclaimer: I fully expect that to break multiple TOS clauses so I take no responsibility whatsoever if anyone tries this one.)
- JorgeGT 7y agoHm, a hostile nation state could cause some serious economic damage this way. Maybe they're already doing it?
- crystaldev 7y agoYea that's enough HN for today.
- copperx 7y agoIt's a bit naive to think that Google doesn't have a filtering rule that says "only consider real phones with a true GPS signal".
- beefield 7y agoThis may be a bit naive question, but how does Google know that the virtual phone is not a real phone and the signal is not true? In a way that is not spoofable?