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I can’t stand push notifications, I disable them all except for a couple (like signal). They are usually only part of the app to manipulate you into using it co

I can’t stand push notifications, I disable them all except for a couple (like signal). They are usually only part of the app to manipulate you into using it constantly

dmix 7y ago
What's your point? Do you think you represent most people? Can you not just turn it off? Notifications have fine tuned controls on both iOS and Android with schedule Do Not Disturb features and varying levels of priority (iOS has 3 tiers). Plus per-app controls to disable them from annoying apps, which in newer versions of iOS prompt you before they turn on, making them opt-in. It's essential for communication apps (texting, email) and useful for breaking news or a simple highlight of big news on WSJ/NYT on your activity feed, so you don't need to open either app to stay on top of big events if you're a news junkie like me. I'd personally go as far as saying push-notifications + the activity feed is very underrated feature of smart phones and has become a core part of people's day-to-day lives (which plenty of technologies can't say).
- npo9 7y ago
  > Do you think you represent most people? I've seen poor push notification quality increase uninstall and churn rates. I think the lesson is that many people are quickly annoyed with push notifications.
  - zapzupnz 7y ago
    I think that's inaccurate. There are plenty of push notifications that don't annoy people, that are often the primary basis for how people interact with certain apps — Facebook, Messenger, WhatsApp, Slack, Discord, etc. Let's not assume that all push notifications are cynical attempts to get people engaged with the app or to push DLC. For things like mail, messaging, and plenty of other online services, push notifications are not just an important interface to the app; they can be the interface.
- buboard 7y ago
  Its true that tons of news sites ask for permission just to spam you, or outright sell notifications to advertisers. I think the web notif channel has already been abused beyond repair. It may be time to redo the concept from scratch Killer feature for email: add an email header that turns an email to notification. Then email apps would push the notification to the user, bypassing apple’s block. Websites already have the user’s email, so no need for more subscriptions. If gmail implemented this, it might push for adoption
  - scottmotte 7y ago
    That's a novel thought. I imagine then the native mail apps would expand in settings in order to block some bad senders from abusing that email header. Tangentially related, iOS mail app has a VIP setting. [1] https://support.apple.com/lv-lv/HT207213#vip https://support.apple.com/lv-lv/HT207213#vip
    - buboard 7y ago
      The apps don’t even need to think of spam, that would be handled by the mail server just like all other spam.
Normal_gaussian 7y ago
several applications require them to be useful. Security events from my home cameras, messages from clients, timers, email Anytime I'm using a peice of small business software I'd probably like it to be able to give me notifications
- beefield 7y ago
  Honestly curious and hopefully not rude, but how can you concentrate on anything? Or does your work/life not require you to concentrate ever/most of the time on anything? (I have turned all but phone call and sms notifications off on my phone. I will check my email/whatsapp when I want and see notifications there as needed. If someone has something urgent, they know how to call.)
  - Normal_gaussian 7y ago
    Simply, it doesn't affect me adversely at all. I think you have a misunderstanding as to how many notifications are generated. Today I received: * 3 reminders to eat * 1 security alert (delivery) * about two dozen instant messages between myself and clients * a couple of dozen CI alerts * 3 emails Its easy to have different levels of notifications, and filter message channels. I have less distraction now than I had in an office by several orders of magnitude. Everything is either immediately relevant or very important. The notifications I have make me more effective.
    - servercobra 7y ago
      What kind of reminders to eat are you getting? Like "don't forget to eat?" or "don't forget, this is your plan for lunch"?
      - namibj 7y ago
        I'd assume some sort of "go eat now, it's time" scheme, so he can stay in deep flow without neglecting his food intake.
apl002 7y ago
I love push notifications. Its honestly how I stay up to date on whatever is happening. I aint got time to scroll through everything
- agumonkey 7y ago
  are you the one exception that makes us all suffer from notification induced FOMO ? :)
  - ryanwaggoner 7y ago
    No one makes you suffer through anything. You can’t get push notifications without specifically opting into them, and you can disable them forever for any app with about 3 taps.
    - agumonkey 7y ago
      their existence annoys
thrwaway69 7y ago
This is exactly what I was thinking a while ago. Most apps won't give you good notifications, just spam you so there could be an app that lets you have some good notifications instead of disabling them all through a filter. I never looked into whether this is possible to do on android or iOS. I thought it might not be given the power available to hijack all the notifications available.

I can’t stand push notifications, I disable them all except for a couple (like signal). They are usually only part of the app to manipulate you into using it constantly

dmix 7y ago

What's your point? Do you think you represent most people? Can you not just turn it off? Notifications have fine tuned controls on both iOS and Android with schedule Do Not Disturb features and varying levels of priority (iOS has 3 tiers). Plus per-app controls to disable them from annoying apps, which in newer versions of iOS prompt you before they turn on, making them opt-in. It's essential for communication apps (texting, email) and useful for breaking news or a simple highlight of big news on WSJ/NYT on your activity feed, so you don't need to open either app to stay on top of big events if you're a news junkie like me. I'd personally go as far as saying push-notifications + the activity feed is very underrated feature of smart phones and has become a core part of people's day-to-day lives (which plenty of technologies can't say).

npo9 7y ago
> Do you think you represent most people? I've seen poor push notification quality increase uninstall and churn rates. I think the lesson is that many people are quickly annoyed with push notifications.
- zapzupnz 7y ago
  I think that's inaccurate. There are plenty of push notifications that don't annoy people, that are often the primary basis for how people interact with certain apps — Facebook, Messenger, WhatsApp, Slack, Discord, etc. Let's not assume that all push notifications are cynical attempts to get people engaged with the app or to push DLC. For things like mail, messaging, and plenty of other online services, push notifications are not just an important interface to the app; they can be the interface.
buboard 7y ago
Its true that tons of news sites ask for permission just to spam you, or outright sell notifications to advertisers. I think the web notif channel has already been abused beyond repair. It may be time to redo the concept from scratch Killer feature for email: add an email header that turns an email to notification. Then email apps would push the notification to the user, bypassing apple’s block. Websites already have the user’s email, so no need for more subscriptions. If gmail implemented this, it might push for adoption
- scottmotte 7y ago
  That's a novel thought. I imagine then the native mail apps would expand in settings in order to block some bad senders from abusing that email header. Tangentially related, iOS mail app has a VIP setting. [1] https://support.apple.com/lv-lv/HT207213#vip https://support.apple.com/lv-lv/HT207213#vip
  - buboard 7y ago
    The apps don’t even need to think of spam, that would be handled by the mail server just like all other spam.

Normal_gaussian 7y ago

several applications require them to be useful. Security events from my home cameras, messages from clients, timers, email Anytime I'm using a peice of small business software I'd probably like it to be able to give me notifications

beefield 7y ago
Honestly curious and hopefully not rude, but how can you concentrate on anything? Or does your work/life not require you to concentrate ever/most of the time on anything? (I have turned all but phone call and sms notifications off on my phone. I will check my email/whatsapp when I want and see notifications there as needed. If someone has something urgent, they know how to call.)
- Normal_gaussian 7y ago
  Simply, it doesn't affect me adversely at all. I think you have a misunderstanding as to how many notifications are generated. Today I received: * 3 reminders to eat * 1 security alert (delivery) * about two dozen instant messages between myself and clients * a couple of dozen CI alerts * 3 emails Its easy to have different levels of notifications, and filter message channels. I have less distraction now than I had in an office by several orders of magnitude. Everything is either immediately relevant or very important. The notifications I have make me more effective.
  - servercobra 7y ago
    What kind of reminders to eat are you getting? Like "don't forget to eat?" or "don't forget, this is your plan for lunch"?
    - namibj 7y ago
      I'd assume some sort of "go eat now, it's time" scheme, so he can stay in deep flow without neglecting his food intake.

apl002 7y ago

I love push notifications. Its honestly how I stay up to date on whatever is happening. I aint got time to scroll through everything

agumonkey 7y ago
are you the one exception that makes us all suffer from notification induced FOMO ? :)
- ryanwaggoner 7y ago
  No one makes you suffer through anything. You can’t get push notifications without specifically opting into them, and you can disable them forever for any app with about 3 taps.
  - agumonkey 7y ago
    their existence annoys

thrwaway69 7y ago

This is exactly what I was thinking a while ago. Most apps won't give you good notifications, just spam you so there could be an app that lets you have some good notifications instead of disabling them all through a filter. I never looked into whether this is possible to do on android or iOS. I thought it might not be given the power available to hijack all the notifications available.