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You're viewing it through the lens of a developer. The user wants the best experience. Because software costs 0$ to distribute, the best user experience will a

You're viewing it through the lens of a developer. The user wants the best experience. Because software costs 0$ to distribute, the best user experience will always win out. The future of all software is faster, better software. Websites are shitty, arcane technology - the opposite of the future.

rchaud 7y ago
If a website is popular and does the basics well, it doesn't matter how 'shitty' the technology is. Amazon.com has easily the most hideously designed product pages out there. Because sellers can "customize" the product page, you get their content (usually hero images with tiny text) mixed in with text-only product details, "users also bought" carousels, Q&A and Reviews all jammed together. And they're still doing better than most large ecommerce stores (Walmart, Best Buy etc.) because the stuff that matters (pricing, delivery time) is better than the competition. Switching to the Amazon app doesn't fix any of these problems because it's primarily a content and UX issue.
- solarkraft 7y ago
  Of course if a store is just plain cheaper and over all quality wise better, it it's not that important that it looks hideous and abandoned. But to some people it matters. And if two stores provide the same product at the same price, I think I'll prefer the one that looks nicer. It doesn't decide everything, but it's pretty certainly a factor (although Amazon must have determined that it's a small one to them, as they are still micro-optimizing for other page-related aspects like loading speed).
hombre_fatal 7y ago
I don't know, I get to use uBlock when I use web apps and I have some control over the client even on my phone. Native apps can basically do whatever they want and users are waking up to this. I would like all of my applications to be sandboxed by a browser I have control over.
carierx1 7y ago
The web is truly a horrible user experience. Thankfully the its dying and native apps will prosper.

rchaud 7y ago

If a website is popular and does the basics well, it doesn't matter how 'shitty' the technology is. Amazon.com has easily the most hideously designed product pages out there. Because sellers can "customize" the product page, you get their content (usually hero images with tiny text) mixed in with text-only product details, "users also bought" carousels, Q&A and Reviews all jammed together. And they're still doing better than most large ecommerce stores (Walmart, Best Buy etc.) because the stuff that matters (pricing, delivery time) is better than the competition. Switching to the Amazon app doesn't fix any of these problems because it's primarily a content and UX issue.

solarkraft 7y ago
Of course if a store is just plain cheaper and over all quality wise better, it it's not that important that it looks hideous and abandoned. But to some people it matters. And if two stores provide the same product at the same price, I think I'll prefer the one that looks nicer. It doesn't decide everything, but it's pretty certainly a factor (although Amazon must have determined that it's a small one to them, as they are still micro-optimizing for other page-related aspects like loading speed).

hombre_fatal 7y ago

I don't know, I get to use uBlock when I use web apps and I have some control over the client even on my phone. Native apps can basically do whatever they want and users are waking up to this. I would like all of my applications to be sandboxed by a browser I have control over.

carierx1 7y ago

The web is truly a horrible user experience. Thankfully the its dying and native apps will prosper.