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I support the vegetarian movement from the perspective of cruelty, sustainability, and eco-friendliness. My understanding is that Telsa's belief that a veggie d

I support the vegetarian movement from the perspective of cruelty, sustainability, and eco-friendliness. My understanding is that Telsa's belief that a veggie diet is superior (regarding mechanical and mental performance) has been disproven. Anecdotally, of the people around me, I've seen no correlation in the top athletic/career achievers to any kind of diet. Rather, balanced and disciplined eating seems to correlate. Are there any good sources for a particular diet/restriction that correlates with mechanical or mental performance? Anecdotally the top performers I know generally balance meat/fruit/vegetables, eliminate sugar, and follow other common nutrition knowledge without committing to any particular diets or restrictions.

miles 7y ago
> My understanding is that Telsa's belief that a veggie diet is superior (regarding mechanical and mental performance) has been disproven See James Cameron's "The Game Changers": https://gamechangersmovie.com https://gamechangersmovie.com https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iSpglxHTJVM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iSpglxHTJVM https://www.netflix.com/title/81157840 https://www.netflix.com/title/81157840
- ceej01 7y ago
  A couple videos debunking the film "The Game Changers": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dq4Apc2Xk7Q https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dq4Apc2Xk7Q https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R6Ju_HdWB0Y& https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R6Ju_HdWB0Y&
  - miles 7y ago
    Beyond question or debunking: the world-class athletes featured in the film have achieved their successes while on pure plant-based diets.
    - agumonkey 7y ago
      Honestly do we need full veganism to make a dent in both Eco-friendliness and personal health ? a bit of meat would be alright and most of the negative of worldwide mass production
    - bumby 7y ago
      Possible for some vs optimal for most are two different things. There’s also a lot of confounding variables, not to mention PEDs at the top level of most (highly compensated) sports. I wish a plant-only diet was optimal across the board but so far I haven’t found the right one that is the case for me personally.
    - nradov 7y ago
      That is false. Some of the athletes featured in the movie did consume animal products such as eggs. It's a propaganda piece, not to be taken seriously.
      - miles 7y ago
        > Some of the athletes featured in the movie did consume animal products such as eggs. Can you please share who that was? And corroborating links?
        bumby 7y ago
        Nate Diaz is one: ""Speaking about his plant-based diet, the athlete said: "I'm going on and off. "I was a complete vegan for eight years, but I would dabble into some seafood every now and then. "Now, I dig fish."" https://www.plantbasednews.org/culture/athlete-on-off-vegan-nate-diaz-speaks-against-tofu https://www.plantbasednews.org/culture/athlete-on-off-vegan-...
  - miles 7y ago
    As you shared Rogan's episode 1389 "debunking" The Game Changers, it seems only fair to include the followup episode 1393, which addresses the claims in 1389: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s0zgNY_kqlI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s0zgNY_kqlI
cesnja 7y ago
> Anecdotally the top performers I know generally balance meat/fruit/vegetables, eliminate sugar, and follow other common nutrition knowledge without committing to any particular diets or restrictions. What you describe here is also set of particular diets that include many restrictions. The only difference is these restrictions are not considered extremely incompatible with the common diet.

miles 7y ago

> My understanding is that Telsa's belief that a veggie diet is superior (regarding mechanical and mental performance) has been disproven See James Cameron's "The Game Changers": https://gamechangersmovie.com https://gamechangersmovie.com https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iSpglxHTJVM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iSpglxHTJVM https://www.netflix.com/title/81157840 https://www.netflix.com/title/81157840

ceej01 7y ago
A couple videos debunking the film "The Game Changers": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dq4Apc2Xk7Q https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dq4Apc2Xk7Q https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R6Ju_HdWB0Y& https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R6Ju_HdWB0Y&
- miles 7y ago
  Beyond question or debunking: the world-class athletes featured in the film have achieved their successes while on pure plant-based diets.
  - agumonkey 7y ago
    Honestly do we need full veganism to make a dent in both Eco-friendliness and personal health ? a bit of meat would be alright and most of the negative of worldwide mass production
  - bumby 7y ago
    Possible for some vs optimal for most are two different things. There’s also a lot of confounding variables, not to mention PEDs at the top level of most (highly compensated) sports. I wish a plant-only diet was optimal across the board but so far I haven’t found the right one that is the case for me personally.
  - nradov 7y ago
    That is false. Some of the athletes featured in the movie did consume animal products such as eggs. It's a propaganda piece, not to be taken seriously.
    - miles 7y ago
      > Some of the athletes featured in the movie did consume animal products such as eggs. Can you please share who that was? And corroborating links?
      - bumby 7y ago
        Nate Diaz is one: ""Speaking about his plant-based diet, the athlete said: "I'm going on and off. "I was a complete vegan for eight years, but I would dabble into some seafood every now and then. "Now, I dig fish."" https://www.plantbasednews.org/culture/athlete-on-off-vegan-nate-diaz-speaks-against-tofu https://www.plantbasednews.org/culture/athlete-on-off-vegan-...
- miles 7y ago
  As you shared Rogan's episode 1389 "debunking" The Game Changers, it seems only fair to include the followup episode 1393, which addresses the claims in 1389: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s0zgNY_kqlI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s0zgNY_kqlI

cesnja 7y ago

> Anecdotally the top performers I know generally balance meat/fruit/vegetables, eliminate sugar, and follow other common nutrition knowledge without committing to any particular diets or restrictions. What you describe here is also set of particular diets that include many restrictions. The only difference is these restrictions are not considered extremely incompatible with the common diet.