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Launch HN: Deviceplane (YC W20) – Update and Manage Devices Running Linux
Hey Hacker News! We're Josh, Sean, and Cyrus from Deviceplane (https://deviceplane.com/ https://deviceplane.com/).
Deviceplane is an open source device management tool for embedded systems, IoT, and edge computing. More specifically, we manage any device running Linux. These can be found in many different categories of hardware such as single-board computers (Raspberry Pis, Jetson Nanos), IoT devices/gateways, and servers running at the edge.
The use cases for Linux devices span many different verticals/industries: robotics, consumer appliances, drones, autonomous vehicles, medical devices, and much more. Your first thought might be that a tool for managing robots and a tool for managing medical devices are quite different, but after talking to a variety of companies, we've found that the pain points across these industries are actually quite similar!
Deviceplane solves the biggest infrastructure problems for these use cases:
- Orchestrating and deployment of remote updates
- Network connectivity and SSH access
- Host and application monitoring
- Device organization: naming, labeling, searching, and filtering of devices
- Access and security controls
Deviceplane is designed to support a variety of hardware, from small embedded devices to large x86 servers. Today’s tooling ecosystem suffers from being segmented by hardware size.
For smaller devices, the Yocto project is popular. While it's good for building custom Linux installations, it has downsides for delivering applications. It's hard to understand, can take hours to compile, and solves only a portion of the problems present in device management.
For larger devices, many companies seem to build and maintain their own internal tooling. We've seen everything from systems built around configuration management to scripts polling for new Debian packages in S3. These systems are usually brittle, fall short of a complete feature set, and drain precious engineering resources with their maintenance.
We think Deviceplane is a great replacement for all of these. Not only is it suitable for all of these hardware sizes, it also presents a way to standardize the tooling across them.
One of our goals with Deviceplane is to make device management more accessible to developers. To do this, we build on technologies and concepts popularized in cloud deployments:
- Applications are packaged as containers and defined in a format resembling Docker Compose
- Updates can be rolled out and tested gradually by using "canary" deployments
- An intuitive and scriptable CLI that will feel familiar to Docker and Kubernetes users
Deviceplane integrates with your device by running a lightweight static binary via your system supervisor. We can be used with nearly any Linux distro, which means you can continue using Ubuntu, Raspbian, a Yocto build, or whatever else fits your needs.
Deviceplane is completely open source. The code for everything from the agent to the backend and UI can be found on GitHub (https://github.com/deviceplane/deviceplane https://github.com/deviceplane/deviceplane). We put a lot of effort into making our open source version as easy as possible to run. You can even run the backend of Deviceplane with a single Docker command:
docker run -d --restart=unless-stopped -p 8080:8080 deviceplane/deviceplane
For more information on hosting Deviceplane yourself, check out our docs (https://deviceplane.com/docs/self-hosted/ https://deviceplane.com/docs/self-hosted/).
If you'd rather jump right into managing devices, we have a hosted version available at https://cloud.deviceplane.com/ https://cloud.deviceplane.com/.
Lastly, we'd love to hear more about your experiences managing devices! What have your biggest pain points been, and what infrastructure do you wish existed to solve those? Either comment here, or shoot us an email anytime at founders@deviceplane.com.
- calvinfo 7y agoI don't know a ton about the embedded/IOT world, but it's an area that has been coming up more on my radar recently. This project seems like a super interesting solution to the problems of deployment, updates, and monitoring. Could you talk a bit more about the focus on linux? How much of the ecosystem is running a full OS vs a small embedded program?
- crtlaltdel 7y agolinux has become quite common in iot, which has really expanded what a lot of people consider an “embedded system”. we built a platform on a custom BSP for OpenWRT for industrial applications where an rtos or plc wasn’t needed.
- joshwget 7y agoThe short answer, agreeing with @crtlaltdel, is that Linux is getting really popular for embedded/IoT use cases. A lot of "embedded" devices are starting to look more and more like real servers. The latest model of Raspberry Pis go up to 4gb of RAM! Linux has been standard in the cloud for a long time and as a result the tooling is pretty mature now. Projects like Kubernetes are great for managing servers in the cloud and have become quite standard. We noticed the same level of tooling for running Linux on devices just wasn't there yet, and so we decided to try and fix that! That being said, there are certainly use cases where Linux isn't the best choice. If you have realtime requirements or you need low power usage then using an RTOS is a better option.
- thebeardisred 7y agoTo some extent, it's a matter of ease. For embedded systems, you'd have to include the command and control elements in, which then gets into concerns about the amount of memory (both RAM and flash consumed). For example, the ESP* devices historically have had challenges because you don't have enough flash storage to hold a proper SSL anchor chain. Suffice it to say there is a LOT of nuance when working in the embedded world which vanishes if you (even if just for the purposes of minimal viable product) focus on a full OS.
- ocdtrekkie 7y ago