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I know a guy who works at Amazon. The person who spammed the internal email list soliciting participants for this is no longer at the company. Survey sent in

I know a guy who works at Amazon. The person who spammed the internal email list soliciting participants for this is no longer at the company. Survey sent in the email: https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/ZSJH2G3 https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/ZSJH2G3

hectorlorenzo 7y ago
As far as I know, this is not true. The person I got the email from is still working at Amazon.
krn 7y ago
> The person who spammed the internal email list soliciting participants for this is no longer at the company. I could understand this from the AMZN shareholders point of view: as an employee of the company you are paid to defend private interests, not public interests.
- paganel 7y ago
  > as an employee of the company you are paid to defend private interests, not public interests So all that "stakeholder capitalism" recent discussion was pure BS? [1] [1] https://www.blackrock.com/corporate/investor-relations/larry-fink-ceo-letter https://www.blackrock.com/corporate/investor-relations/larry...
  - krn 7y ago
    That should come from the top, not from the bottom of the company. It's not the responsibility of a lower level employee to define what his company stands for. Everyone is free to work for a company that matches his values.
    - paganel 7y ago
      > Everyone is free to work for a company that matches his values. No, they are not. Maybe it is true for a select group of people (computer programmers, some lawyers, some medical professionals), but the vast majority of people are not "free to work" and choose any company that matches "their values". Which makes protests like this one even more important and noteworthy, as those people protesting are risking a lot more compared to the "privileged" professions I mentioned above.
      - krn 7y ago
        > Which makes protests like this one even more important and noteworthy, as those people protesting are risking a lot more compared to the "privileged" professions I mentioned above. The profession doesn't matter at all, because anyone can go to the streets and protest to defend public interests. But attacking your own employer is not a solution. Why not to look for a job at NGO, or get involved in a non-profit startup instead? Oh, it doesn't pay well enough? Then you have to come into an agreement with yourself.
        hectorlorenzo 7y ago
        Because no one in big corps would then fight for these kind of issues. Amazon changing parts of its business to be more sustainable is probably more impactful than dozens of NGOs at full speed.
        krn 7y ago
        Amazon or any other corporation will only change parts of its business to become more sustainable if that directly (through lower spending) or indirectly (through improved public image) increases its profitability. Unless, of course, it's forced to do so by government regulations.
        hectorlorenzo 7y ago
        Well, I guess that workers demonstrating publicly against your own policies doesn't do wonders for public image.
        paganel 7y ago
        > Why not to look for a job at NGO, or get involved in a non-profit startup instead? You're seriously asking why a lowly-paid Amazon employee doesn't look for a NGO or a non-profit startup job instead? No offence, but is this satire? It seems like a Silicon Valley episode to me.
        7y ago
    - raxxorrax 7y ago
      Your customers might be interested in what your "lower level employees" think.

hectorlorenzo 7y ago

As far as I know, this is not true. The person I got the email from is still working at Amazon.

krn 7y ago

> The person who spammed the internal email list soliciting participants for this is no longer at the company. I could understand this from the AMZN shareholders point of view: as an employee of the company you are paid to defend private interests, not public interests.

paganel 7y ago
> as an employee of the company you are paid to defend private interests, not public interests So all that "stakeholder capitalism" recent discussion was pure BS? [1] [1] https://www.blackrock.com/corporate/investor-relations/larry-fink-ceo-letter https://www.blackrock.com/corporate/investor-relations/larry...
- krn 7y ago
  That should come from the top, not from the bottom of the company. It's not the responsibility of a lower level employee to define what his company stands for. Everyone is free to work for a company that matches his values.
  - paganel 7y ago
    > Everyone is free to work for a company that matches his values. No, they are not. Maybe it is true for a select group of people (computer programmers, some lawyers, some medical professionals), but the vast majority of people are not "free to work" and choose any company that matches "their values". Which makes protests like this one even more important and noteworthy, as those people protesting are risking a lot more compared to the "privileged" professions I mentioned above.
    - krn 7y ago
      > Which makes protests like this one even more important and noteworthy, as those people protesting are risking a lot more compared to the "privileged" professions I mentioned above. The profession doesn't matter at all, because anyone can go to the streets and protest to defend public interests. But attacking your own employer is not a solution. Why not to look for a job at NGO, or get involved in a non-profit startup instead? Oh, it doesn't pay well enough? Then you have to come into an agreement with yourself.
      - hectorlorenzo 7y ago
        Because no one in big corps would then fight for these kind of issues. Amazon changing parts of its business to be more sustainable is probably more impactful than dozens of NGOs at full speed.
        krn 7y ago
        Amazon or any other corporation will only change parts of its business to become more sustainable if that directly (through lower spending) or indirectly (through improved public image) increases its profitability. Unless, of course, it's forced to do so by government regulations.
        hectorlorenzo 7y ago
        Well, I guess that workers demonstrating publicly against your own policies doesn't do wonders for public image.
      - paganel 7y ago
        > Why not to look for a job at NGO, or get involved in a non-profit startup instead? You're seriously asking why a lowly-paid Amazon employee doesn't look for a NGO or a non-profit startup job instead? No offence, but is this satire? It seems like a Silicon Valley episode to me.
        7y ago
  - raxxorrax 7y ago
    Your customers might be interested in what your "lower level employees" think.