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Language is not thinking. Language is I/O Actually, I think the key thing is Language is not logic. People are great at simple logic statements and terrible at

Language is not thinking. Language is I/O Actually, I think the key thing is Language is not logic. People are great at simple logic statements and terrible at complex logic. A line of SQL with 1-2 predicates can indeed seem "easy and language like" but a line of SQL with 5-6 predicates can be utterly opaque, a beast that many programmers would be happy to write an entire 1000-line C program to avoid. I think a key failing of discussion of cause and effect, logic and so-forth is a failure to really come to terms with the multifaceted qualities of human language expression. And I'd agree with other posters that the distinction between I/O and thought can be debatable.

wtvanhest 7y ago
I have come to the determination that people are really good at understand, learn and explain two dimensional concepts and most people are good at understanding/learning/explaining 3 dimensional problems. After 3 dimensions it gets extremely hard and people quickly move to heuristics and short-cuts because most people (i.e. the vast majority including myself) can really only comprehend 3 dimensions of information. What happens when a human hand grabs and moves an object? At least 5 dimensions that I can think of: 1. x axis 2. y axis 3. z axis (i.e. 3 axis's just to get to the object) 4. grip strength 5. rotation Those 5 are the absolutely basic, and there are many others, speed, grip texture etc. I know engineers have programmed robotic hands to grab stuff, but I cannot imagine how many dimensions there are in unstructured problems. That requires engineers to think through so many dimensions, which seems impossible to me.
- tabtab 7y ago
  We probably use habitual trial and error to train our biological neural net to perform our arm and hand movements rather than mathematical formulas. You can watch a baby experiment trying to grab and move items for hours a day. (Poor cat.)

wtvanhest 7y ago

I have come to the determination that people are really good at understand, learn and explain two dimensional concepts and most people are good at understanding/learning/explaining 3 dimensional problems. After 3 dimensions it gets extremely hard and people quickly move to heuristics and short-cuts because most people (i.e. the vast majority including myself) can really only comprehend 3 dimensions of information. What happens when a human hand grabs and moves an object? At least 5 dimensions that I can think of: 1. x axis 2. y axis 3. z axis (i.e. 3 axis's just to get to the object) 4. grip strength 5. rotation Those 5 are the absolutely basic, and there are many others, speed, grip texture etc. I know engineers have programmed robotic hands to grab stuff, but I cannot imagine how many dimensions there are in unstructured problems. That requires engineers to think through so many dimensions, which seems impossible to me.

tabtab 7y ago
We probably use habitual trial and error to train our biological neural net to perform our arm and hand movements rather than mathematical formulas. You can watch a baby experiment trying to grab and move items for hours a day. (Poor cat.)