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I wonder how it could even be considered "cruel"? Cruel to other living human beings, perhaps. To the machine or its simulation software? No. Any human-like AI
by nineteen999 7y ago
I wonder how it could even be considered "cruel"? Cruel to other living human beings, perhaps. To the machine or its simulation software? No.
Any human-like AI is still a "fake" - any notion of emotion, pain, empathy etc. we attribute to them is only a simulation. It simply doesn't matter. It amazes and amuses me to think that people might actually give a damn what the machine is "feeling". I think people who truly believe this are out of touch with reality and frankly, with other human beings. The machine doesn't really care about us, it's a bunch of ones and zeroes no matter how you slice and dice it.
Even after training them on cause and effect, they still don't care. I don't buy the "if it looks like a human, sounds like a human, it's human" argument at all.
- jacobwilliamroy 7y agoSure it is. Sure it is. Whatever helps you sleep at night.
- JoeAltmaier 7y agoCruel is also in the mind of the one doing the cruelty. People worry about being cruel to plant, to pets, to their cars. Its natural and normal, because we are empathetic beings. Not something to try to unlearn or avoid; its a big part of our humanity.
- nineteen999 7y agoA plant or an animal, yes. A car though? Only reason to worry about being "cruel" to a car is that mistreating it will result in larger repair bills and a need to replace it earlier. Same thing with a computer. But each to their own I guess.
- jacobwilliamroy 7y agoWhen your car is smart enough to assemble Ikea furniture, it'll also be smart enough to quietly resent you for making it assemble furniture all day.
- imtringued 7y agoNo, it would probably enjoy it. If you were making it clean the toilet all day then it would start to resent you.
- drdeca 7y agoSo do you think that the true laws of physics are uncomputable, or that even if a perfectly accurate physical simulation of a person were simulated, that while it would be entirely accurate in predicting what such a person would do if they were physically real, that they would have no internal experience nor moral worth? Edit: alternatively, perhaps you only mean that any AI that realistically speaking might eventually be made would not be a person, not that no AI that could in theory be made would be?
- nineteen999 7y agoI apologise in advance, but I have tried to parse your question multiple times, and I am still finding it unintelligible.
- amanaplanacanal 7y agoI'm in the middle of rewatching Battlestar Galactica, and this subject is at the core of the series. Where do other mammals fit in your schema? Do you believe in some sort of biological essentialism? Or are only humans with caring about?
- nineteen999 7y agoMany mammals are delicious? Other than that, I like animals a lot. Machines deserve no such empathy, just a flick of the power switch as required. And I watched Automata (2014) last night. Didn't feel a single thing for the robots, as much as the film tries to goad you into doing so.