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Anybody with large amounts of cash. If you don’t use digital banking, they can’t trace your spending easily and that becomes something close to enough evidence

Anybody with large amounts of cash. If you don’t use digital banking, they can’t trace your spending easily and that becomes something close to enough evidence to Civil Asset Forfeiture your cash. And I don’t like your argument because there are always a few extreme dummies who justify the policies at airports, so I don’t think the “all smart criminals will avoid detection” is strong enough to mean we should just drop all screening.

beatgammit 7y ago
How about we stop assuming that lots of cash implies a crime? I bought my last car with cash, which I think is greater than the current "this is sketchy" limit since it was over $10k in $100 bills. I have also given and received gifts of similar magnitude. If it weren't for sales tax making change a royal pain, I would use cash far more often, in which case carrying a few hundred would be an everyday thing, and carrying a few thousand wouldn't be "weird". I am really uncomfortable with asset forfeiture without at least a criminal charge, or preferably a conviction. Carrying a ton of cash may raise questions, but it should never be sufficient evidence for seizure.
- ororo92 7y ago
  My guess is you’ll never be in a position to have a lot of cash, keeping it from being a real problem for you, meaning you’ll forget all about this righteous little display of thought experimenting how the world ought to work and have accomplished nothing of value from it. How about we stop doing that? Put a real plan together in the legal sense and we’ll have something. Banal forum exercises like this are a fractional Bitcoin for a dozen.
  - flyingfences 7y ago
    > Put a real plan together in the legal sense Is "hey government, don't steal people's money just because they have it" an unreal plan now?
  - Supermancho 7y ago
    > My guess is you’ll never be in a position to have a lot of cash, keeping it from being a real problem for you, That's a little ignorant. When buying a personal hobbyist aircraft (KitFox, which was a thing) engine, my father stuck 10k in his socks that he had withdrawn over a couple months when traveling to go take a look at the engine in Kansas or wherever he found it. I have had to deposit 25k in cash into a business account. These things are uncommon, but not rare.

beatgammit 7y ago

How about we stop assuming that lots of cash implies a crime? I bought my last car with cash, which I think is greater than the current "this is sketchy" limit since it was over $10k in $100 bills. I have also given and received gifts of similar magnitude. If it weren't for sales tax making change a royal pain, I would use cash far more often, in which case carrying a few hundred would be an everyday thing, and carrying a few thousand wouldn't be "weird". I am really uncomfortable with asset forfeiture without at least a criminal charge, or preferably a conviction. Carrying a ton of cash may raise questions, but it should never be sufficient evidence for seizure.

ororo92 7y ago
My guess is you’ll never be in a position to have a lot of cash, keeping it from being a real problem for you, meaning you’ll forget all about this righteous little display of thought experimenting how the world ought to work and have accomplished nothing of value from it. How about we stop doing that? Put a real plan together in the legal sense and we’ll have something. Banal forum exercises like this are a fractional Bitcoin for a dozen.
- flyingfences 7y ago
  > Put a real plan together in the legal sense Is "hey government, don't steal people's money just because they have it" an unreal plan now?
- Supermancho 7y ago
  > My guess is you’ll never be in a position to have a lot of cash, keeping it from being a real problem for you, That's a little ignorant. When buying a personal hobbyist aircraft (KitFox, which was a thing) engine, my father stuck 10k in his socks that he had withdrawn over a couple months when traveling to go take a look at the engine in Kansas or wherever he found it. I have had to deposit 25k in cash into a business account. These things are uncommon, but not rare.