5 ms·

Awesome work. Having just gone through this for my company, I'd recommend a few valuable bits of information: - Thunderbolt 3 support filter - Power delivery

Awesome work. Having just gone through this for my company, I'd recommend a few valuable bits of information: - Thunderbolt 3 support filter - Power delivery capability (usually 60W-100W if at all) Both of those are valuable for mac shoppers.

loopbit 7y ago
Not only for macs... I have 4 raspberry pi4 powered through an USB hub and spent quite a bit of time looking for one that had at least 4 ports and that every port could deliver a minimum of 5V-3A. The US amazon had a few, but trying to find them (or similar) in several european Amazons was quite difficult.
- sitkack 7y ago
  You have some model numbers handy? Which one are you currently using?
  - loopbit 7y ago
    For amazon.com, there were a few from Anker (one was mentioned in another comment) that looked interesting... As I said, no luck finding them in europe. I ended up going with this one: https://thepihut.com/products/anidees-6-port-smart-ic-usb-charger-50-watt https://thepihut.com/products/anidees-6-port-smart-ic-usb-ch...
    - hinkley 7y ago
      One of Anker's raisons d'être is high current USB ports, so I'd be shocked if they couldn't do 3A. I did not realize they were not available in the EU though. It looks like they list on Amazon UK, not sure how helpful that is.
- alias_neo 7y ago
  Any chance of a link? I'm looking good something to power a Pi4 cluster. Thanks
  - loopbit 7y ago
    I ended up going with this one: https://thepihut.com/products/anidees-6-port-smart-ic-usb-charger-50-watt https://thepihut.com/products/anidees-6-port-smart-ic-usb-ch... Have had it for a couple of months now with no issues.
    - alias_neo 7y ago
      Thanks
  - magicalhippo 7y ago
    AFAIK that 3A figure for the Pi includes power for the USB ports on the Pi. So if you don't load up the USB ports, you can get away with more like 1.5-2A, depending on what you do.
    - alias_neo 7y ago
      Thanks. I intend to use it as a cluster ski no need for USB peripherals, I'll keep that in mind!
      - magicalhippo 7y ago
        FWIW my 4GB RPi 4 pulls about 1.2A peak when using the CPU full tilt. Haven't stressed the GPU yet so don't know about that. This without any USB except wireless Logitech keyboard/mouse receiver, and with Wifi enabled.
        alias_neo 7y ago
        Useful information thanks. That's much lower than the recommended 3A.
- soneil 7y ago
  > and that every port could deliver a minimum of 5V-3A. For the pi, “at the same time” is what most hubs seem to miss - often they can supply 3A per port, but not ports * 3A overall. (60W on 6-10 ports is a typical config, so you can pull 12-15W per port, but not 6 * 12+ overall.
- mobilemidget 7y ago
  Good HDMI capable usb-c hubs below 20 USD? Hmm, I cannot find anything similar priced in NL. I would prefer to have one that can do 2x HDMI as not all workplaces I sit have usb-c capable monitors. When I was checking a while back it seems to have a weird pricing gap between ones that have 1 or 2 HDMI outputs. More than twice the price.
jayp 7y ago
What did you end up buying? Any regrets? I got something from cable matters but think it is faulty and cuts out on PD at times. I am looking for a replacement.
- mmastrac 7y ago
  I ended up buying a monitor with PD/TB3 rather than a hub as my setup was using a pretty janky old monitor. The two "hubs" that supported all the stuff that I wanted were effectively docking stations: - https://hengedocks.com/products/stone-pro https://hengedocks.com/products/stone-pro - https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07VL675DT https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07VL675DT I also bought one of these (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/hypershop/hyperjuice-worlds-first-and-smallest-100w-gan-charger https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/hypershop/hyperjuice-wo...), but waiting on delivery. It's not a hub, however.
  - whatsmyusername 7y ago
    We have so many 2015/13inch henge docks I'm trying to get rid of.
- petepete 7y ago
  I recently bought one for my ThinkPad. I'd suggest to avoid anything DisplayLink at all costs, it's laggy on Windows and the Linux driver support is pretty bad (Ubuntu only, doesn't support the latest version, not open source). I just use another USB-C to DisplayPort cable even though it should be unnecessary. https://www.displaylink.com/ https://www.displaylink.com/
- Marsymars 7y ago
  I've found CalDigit and Plugable to both be very good in general.
pen2l 7y ago
I’ve got a carbon x (6th gen) and an iPhone X, I think what you want would work for me too. This is what I’m thinking of: https://www.amazon.com/Anker-Charging-PowerPort-Intelligent-Allocation/dp/B07VSMK849/ref=mp_s_a_1_7?keywords=anker+wall+charger+usb+c&qid=1580063466&sprefix=anker+wall+charger&sr=8-7 https://www.amazon.com/Anker-Charging-PowerPort-Intelligent-... If someone happens to have experience with this, share your thoughts please!
- jimsmart 7y ago
  I have one of these, and it is a great piece of kit - but it is not a USB hub of any kind: it only provides power.
- fmjrey 7y ago
  If you're only after a power adapter for your X1C6 + iPhoneX then this Anker device will certainly work. I would however wonder if you really need 100W power, 75W would seem sufficient. Edit: if you plan to use a USB to lightning connector for your iPhone X then indeed the 100W is needed as apparently this device splits power evenly (50W+50W) between the two USB C. A comment however says it's not fast charging the iPhoneX when they are both used, so now I understand your dilemma.
- lukeholder 7y ago
  I purchased a https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/hyperjuice-world-s-first-100w-gan-usb-c-charger#/ https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/hyperjuice-world-s-first-... Waiting for it to arrive.
  - pen2l 7y ago
    That looks like a dream, but I'm wary of trusting a newcomer on delivering a dream. Apple's entire game is making things small and making them work well. Why are Apple (who has unlimited funds to throw at this), Anker, and other established companies unable to make something like this, but this newcomer is?
    - inapis 7y ago
junkern 7y ago
Power Delivery is already implemented, but you have to choose that the hub has to have at least one usb-c port. It it possible to have power delivery without having an usb-c(likw) port? Thunderbolt 3 support is on my todo list:)
hinkley 7y ago
I was so pissed a year and a half ago when I realized that none of the hubs had a Thunderbolt pass-through. The new Anker 7 in 1 has a 'USB-C data' port. Given there's no claim or picture of video out, I'll bet that's all it does. And the tail on these. It's almost always too short to make it useful to plug it into the back of a thunderbolt display. I think the Thunderbolt 3 monitor I got recently is my last planned Thunderbolt 3 purchase. I'm not sure if I can hold out long enough for USB-4 to land, where hubs are expected to be hubs again. But barring lost or damaged equipment, I'm going to try.
- hamandcheese 7y ago
  CalDigit sells a thunderbolt hub that has thunderbolt pass-through, though not if you want to run dual 4K displays @ 60hz (the one thunderbolt port becomes the second DisplayPort).

loopbit 7y ago

Not only for macs... I have 4 raspberry pi4 powered through an USB hub and spent quite a bit of time looking for one that had at least 4 ports and that every port could deliver a minimum of 5V-3A. The US amazon had a few, but trying to find them (or similar) in several european Amazons was quite difficult.

sitkack 7y ago
You have some model numbers handy? Which one are you currently using?
- loopbit 7y ago
  For amazon.com, there were a few from Anker (one was mentioned in another comment) that looked interesting... As I said, no luck finding them in europe. I ended up going with this one: https://thepihut.com/products/anidees-6-port-smart-ic-usb-charger-50-watt https://thepihut.com/products/anidees-6-port-smart-ic-usb-ch...
  - hinkley 7y ago
    One of Anker's raisons d'être is high current USB ports, so I'd be shocked if they couldn't do 3A. I did not realize they were not available in the EU though. It looks like they list on Amazon UK, not sure how helpful that is.
alias_neo 7y ago
Any chance of a link? I'm looking good something to power a Pi4 cluster. Thanks
- loopbit 7y ago
  I ended up going with this one: https://thepihut.com/products/anidees-6-port-smart-ic-usb-charger-50-watt https://thepihut.com/products/anidees-6-port-smart-ic-usb-ch... Have had it for a couple of months now with no issues.
  - alias_neo 7y ago
    Thanks
- magicalhippo 7y ago
  AFAIK that 3A figure for the Pi includes power for the USB ports on the Pi. So if you don't load up the USB ports, you can get away with more like 1.5-2A, depending on what you do.
  - alias_neo 7y ago
    Thanks. I intend to use it as a cluster ski no need for USB peripherals, I'll keep that in mind!
    - magicalhippo 7y ago
      FWIW my 4GB RPi 4 pulls about 1.2A peak when using the CPU full tilt. Haven't stressed the GPU yet so don't know about that. This without any USB except wireless Logitech keyboard/mouse receiver, and with Wifi enabled.
      - alias_neo 7y ago
        Useful information thanks. That's much lower than the recommended 3A.
soneil 7y ago
> and that every port could deliver a minimum of 5V-3A. For the pi, “at the same time” is what most hubs seem to miss - often they can supply 3A per port, but not ports * 3A overall. (60W on 6-10 ports is a typical config, so you can pull 12-15W per port, but not 6 * 12+ overall.
mobilemidget 7y ago
Good HDMI capable usb-c hubs below 20 USD? Hmm, I cannot find anything similar priced in NL. I would prefer to have one that can do 2x HDMI as not all workplaces I sit have usb-c capable monitors. When I was checking a while back it seems to have a weird pricing gap between ones that have 1 or 2 HDMI outputs. More than twice the price.

jayp 7y ago

What did you end up buying? Any regrets? I got something from cable matters but think it is faulty and cuts out on PD at times. I am looking for a replacement.

mmastrac 7y ago
I ended up buying a monitor with PD/TB3 rather than a hub as my setup was using a pretty janky old monitor. The two "hubs" that supported all the stuff that I wanted were effectively docking stations: - https://hengedocks.com/products/stone-pro https://hengedocks.com/products/stone-pro - https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07VL675DT https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07VL675DT I also bought one of these (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/hypershop/hyperjuice-worlds-first-and-smallest-100w-gan-charger https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/hypershop/hyperjuice-wo...), but waiting on delivery. It's not a hub, however.
- whatsmyusername 7y ago
  We have so many 2015/13inch henge docks I'm trying to get rid of.
petepete 7y ago
I recently bought one for my ThinkPad. I'd suggest to avoid anything DisplayLink at all costs, it's laggy on Windows and the Linux driver support is pretty bad (Ubuntu only, doesn't support the latest version, not open source). I just use another USB-C to DisplayPort cable even though it should be unnecessary. https://www.displaylink.com/ https://www.displaylink.com/
Marsymars 7y ago
I've found CalDigit and Plugable to both be very good in general.

pen2l 7y ago

I’ve got a carbon x (6th gen) and an iPhone X, I think what you want would work for me too. This is what I’m thinking of: https://www.amazon.com/Anker-Charging-PowerPort-Intelligent-Allocation/dp/B07VSMK849/ref=mp_s_a_1_7?keywords=anker+wall+charger+usb+c&qid=1580063466&sprefix=anker+wall+charger&sr=8-7 https://www.amazon.com/Anker-Charging-PowerPort-Intelligent-... If someone happens to have experience with this, share your thoughts please!

jimsmart 7y ago
I have one of these, and it is a great piece of kit - but it is not a USB hub of any kind: it only provides power.
fmjrey 7y ago
If you're only after a power adapter for your X1C6 + iPhoneX then this Anker device will certainly work. I would however wonder if you really need 100W power, 75W would seem sufficient. Edit: if you plan to use a USB to lightning connector for your iPhone X then indeed the 100W is needed as apparently this device splits power evenly (50W+50W) between the two USB C. A comment however says it's not fast charging the iPhoneX when they are both used, so now I understand your dilemma.
lukeholder 7y ago
I purchased a https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/hyperjuice-world-s-first-100w-gan-usb-c-charger#/ https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/hyperjuice-world-s-first-... Waiting for it to arrive.
- pen2l 7y ago
  That looks like a dream, but I'm wary of trusting a newcomer on delivering a dream. Apple's entire game is making things small and making them work well. Why are Apple (who has unlimited funds to throw at this), Anker, and other established companies unable to make something like this, but this newcomer is?
  - inapis 7y ago

junkern 7y ago

Power Delivery is already implemented, but you have to choose that the hub has to have at least one usb-c port. It it possible to have power delivery without having an usb-c(likw) port? Thunderbolt 3 support is on my todo list:)

hinkley 7y ago

I was so pissed a year and a half ago when I realized that none of the hubs had a Thunderbolt pass-through. The new Anker 7 in 1 has a 'USB-C data' port. Given there's no claim or picture of video out, I'll bet that's all it does. And the tail on these. It's almost always too short to make it useful to plug it into the back of a thunderbolt display. I think the Thunderbolt 3 monitor I got recently is my last planned Thunderbolt 3 purchase. I'm not sure if I can hold out long enough for USB-4 to land, where hubs are expected to be hubs again. But barring lost or damaged equipment, I'm going to try.

hamandcheese 7y ago
CalDigit sells a thunderbolt hub that has thunderbolt pass-through, though not if you want to run dual 4K displays @ 60hz (the one thunderbolt port becomes the second DisplayPort).