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On the iOS side, I regret not knowing how horrible Xcode is and how horrible Apple's documentation is. On the Android side, I regret not realizing that no matte

On the iOS side, I regret not knowing how horrible Xcode is and how horrible Apple's documentation is. On the Android side, I regret not realizing that no matter what kind of slick new well documented APIs Google releases we will all be writing code for Android 4.4 for the rest of our lives. Also, I wish I knew mobile developers are some of the lowest paid developers other than game industry peons.

FeistyOtter 7y ago
I have recently looked at surveys in my country and mobile developers are one of the most paid programmers out there, especially the ones experienced with Swift. What does cause the low pay in your country? Logically the sector is ever expanding and there is always demand for hires with any experience.
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unnouinceput 7y ago
this applies to web developers as well. too many devs on both web and mobile, so salaries are lower then rest of IT technologies. usually a web/mobile dev needs to know a lot more to make it on the same par, at which point you can argue is a full stack one anyway.
alkibiades 7y ago
as a mobile dev at the FANG companies, were paid the same as other engineers. in fact, some are paid more because of the smaller talent pool
vlozko 7y ago
> Also, I wish I knew mobile developers are some of the lowest paid developers other than game industry peons. I wish I can tell you you were wrong here but I only have anecdotal evidence. Maybe you’re stuck in a company that’s taking advantage of you with a low salary?
blackrock 7y ago
> I wish I knew mobile developers are some of the lowest paid developers other than game industry peons. Everything is relative of course, but can you back up your claim with some numbers? Where do you live? What salaries and compensation packages are you seeing?
- rowathray 7y ago
  https://stackoverflow.blog/2018/09/05/developer-salaries-in-2018-updating-the-stack-overflow-salary-calculator/ https://stackoverflow.blog/2018/09/05/developer-salaries-in-... Well, ok, I guess it's not that grim. Still, it's a pretty crappy job.
  - ta32627888 7y ago
    > The specific technologies that developers use also impact salary. This year, the technologies most associated with high salary include Go, Scala, Redis, and React. Surprised me seeing Scala in there, thought it was basically dead now. My last experience with seeing it in a codebase and using (or trying to use) SBT, I was kind of hoping it was.
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  - blackrock 7y ago
    If you had your choice, would you do something else? Like being in finance or becoming a dentist?
    - rowathray 7y ago
      Yeah. A coworker went back to school and got a finance MBA from a third rate school, and already makes more money than a programmer managing a team of analysts, and he only has to know whatever script Excel uses, not a million trendy pointless languages.

FeistyOtter 7y ago

I have recently looked at surveys in my country and mobile developers are one of the most paid programmers out there, especially the ones experienced with Swift. What does cause the low pay in your country? Logically the sector is ever expanding and there is always demand for hires with any experience.

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unnouinceput 7y ago

this applies to web developers as well. too many devs on both web and mobile, so salaries are lower then rest of IT technologies. usually a web/mobile dev needs to know a lot more to make it on the same par, at which point you can argue is a full stack one anyway.

alkibiades 7y ago

as a mobile dev at the FANG companies, were paid the same as other engineers. in fact, some are paid more because of the smaller talent pool

vlozko 7y ago

> Also, I wish I knew mobile developers are some of the lowest paid developers other than game industry peons. I wish I can tell you you were wrong here but I only have anecdotal evidence. Maybe you’re stuck in a company that’s taking advantage of you with a low salary?

blackrock 7y ago

> I wish I knew mobile developers are some of the lowest paid developers other than game industry peons. Everything is relative of course, but can you back up your claim with some numbers? Where do you live? What salaries and compensation packages are you seeing?

rowathray 7y ago
https://stackoverflow.blog/2018/09/05/developer-salaries-in-2018-updating-the-stack-overflow-salary-calculator/ https://stackoverflow.blog/2018/09/05/developer-salaries-in-... Well, ok, I guess it's not that grim. Still, it's a pretty crappy job.
- ta32627888 7y ago
  > The specific technologies that developers use also impact salary. This year, the technologies most associated with high salary include Go, Scala, Redis, and React. Surprised me seeing Scala in there, thought it was basically dead now. My last experience with seeing it in a codebase and using (or trying to use) SBT, I was kind of hoping it was.
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- blackrock 7y ago
  If you had your choice, would you do something else? Like being in finance or becoming a dentist?
  - rowathray 7y ago
    Yeah. A coworker went back to school and got a finance MBA from a third rate school, and already makes more money than a programmer managing a team of analysts, and he only has to know whatever script Excel uses, not a million trendy pointless languages.