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Of course, if the company would have been called something like "Niagara Falls", or "Yosemite", or "Grand Canyon" and the US government protested, we know the r
by seu 7y ago
Of course, if the company would have been called something like "Niagara Falls", or "Yosemite", or "Grand Canyon" and the US government protested, we know the result would have been very different. Just another example of how unjust and unequal in general the administration of domain names is.
- smabie 7y agoIt seems from the article that they just wanted to extract money out of Amazon. Moreover, they never gave a single reason on why they didn’t want Amazon to have the domain.
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- input_sh 7y agoI vaguely remember something along the lines of using "Amazon isn't spelled Amazon in any of the countries in South America" as an argument. A pretty stupid argument if you ask me.
- mkl 7y agoIt's not even technically correct: Guyana's official language is English. (Though it just barely includes any of the Amazon basin.)
- rmsaksida 7y agoThis is what the ACTO requested [0]: - a joint steering committee (ACTO and Amazon) for .amazon, giving ACTO countries the right to veto domains; - delegation of second-level domains to ACTO countries; - commitment from Amazon not to register domains that have significance to the region. I haven't seen any news that suggest they were trying to extract money out of Amazon. It was Amazon that was flaunting money at ACTO. [0] https://www.icann.org/en/system/files/correspondence/zaluar-to-chalaby-23apr19-en.pdf https://www.icann.org/en/system/files/correspondence/zaluar-..., http://www.itamaraty.gov.br/pt-BR/notas-a-imprensa/20312-solicitacao-de-atribuicao-de-dominio-de-primeiro-nivel-amazon http://www.itamaraty.gov.br/pt-BR/notas-a-imprensa/20312-sol...
- ryanlol 7y agoIf the US government wanted to protest, they’d probably do so in a far less incompetent manner. >ACTO insisted on a face-to-face meeting and Marby duly got on a plane to Brasilia. He was in his hotel room in Brazil’s capital when he was told the meeting had been cancelled due to the political situation in Venezuela. In the end the ACTO folks didn’t even care enough to meet with the ICANN CEO who had traveled all the way to Brasilia to meet them. I can’t buy the Venezuela excuse, surely the ACTO gtld experts are not the same people who deal with Venezuela.
- rmsaksida 7y ago> I can’t buy the Venezuela excuse, surely the ACTO gtld experts are not the same people who deal with Venezuela. It was the foreign minister of Brazil who canceled the meeting, citing the tensions with Venezuela as the reason for cancelation. [0] [0] https://veja.abril.com.br/blog/radar/chanceler-cancela-reuniao-ceo-por-presenca-de-autoridades-venezuelanas/ https://veja.abril.com.br/blog/radar/chanceler-cancela-reuni...
- celeritascelery 7y agoSend in an underling then.
- rumanator 7y agoTensions don't change if you send the 2nd or 3rd in command instead of the foreign minister.
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- ryanlol 7y agoThe problem wasn’t that the FM was busy with more important stuff, it was that Brazil didn’t want to participate in negotiations where Venezuela was a party. But they also couldn’t be bothered to inform the other participants about this fact until it was way too late...
- labster 7y agoRight, the US Government would have paid a lot of money to buy the TLD, like they did when they signed a contract that assigned all of the trademarks for Yosemite, including "Yosemite National Park", to Aramark, and then wanted the trademark back.
- bobbiechen 7y agoWow, I hadn't heard of this. Link for the curious: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yosemite_National_Park_trademarks_dispute https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yosemite_National_Park_tradema...
- labster 7y agoAh, thanks for the link. Let me correct the record: Delaware North held the trademarks, Aramark was the new concessionaire that had to rename the Ahwanee Hotel, etc.
- perl4ever 7y agoI'm not an expert on Niagara Falls, but isn't it equally Canadian?
- mthoms 7y agoIt is. So this is probably not the best example by the parent (given that there would be yet another party trying to claim it). But I think the point they raised is still very good.
- perl4ever 7y agoI thought they were being sarcastic, so I'm not sure it's clear what point they raised. Also, people seem to think the US government does not act in a similar way.
- mthoms 7y agoI think they were suggesting that if the US objected to new TLD it would be a different process/outcome than when the South American countries objected.
- perl4ever 7y agoWell, the process of imagining things that support your prejudices is very broadly applicable. You'd think people would just get bored and jaded with it.
- mthoms 7y agoI have no idea what you're going on about. Who has prejudices? Me? The grandparent poster? What specifically are you in disagreement with? Regardless, I think you might be reading way too much into things.
- gist 7y ago> "Niagara Falls", or "Yosemite", or "Grand Canyon" and the US government protested Not even close to being true. I have actually dealt with the US Government and have gotten explicit permission from them for something very similar. Official letter from the appropriate agency 'not restricted by anything feel free to use'. > Just another example of how unjust and unequal in general the administration of domain names is. Typical internet furor over what you read that others say who are not properly informed about a topic. Nothing 'unjust' the process took years and years not exactly a back room deal.