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> For kids it is a bit different, but that's on the parents to protect their child and no amount of technology is going to fully counteract neglectful parenting

> For kids it is a bit different, but that's on the parents to protect their child and no amount of technology is going to fully counteract neglectful parenting. This is a bit harsh and naive. Given how easily it is to access the wide open internet these days, the amount of vigilance on the part of parents to avoid being "neglectful" like that is greatly increased. And that has a lot of negative side effects.

ineedasername 7y ago
Yes, as a parent of multiple kids, it's been extremely difficult to keep tabs and set boundaries on this sort of thing that both keeps my kids from awful content and doesn't make them feel we're suffocating them. I was thrilled when I was able to take away my child's unfettered YouTube access, which I had to constantly monitor and curate, in favor of YouTube kids which has 99.99% of the time presented appropriate content. Though now my oldest is aging out of that walled garden, and we're back to stricter monitoring. It's hard. I want my son to be able to watch folks playing games he likes, get tips & strategies etc., but some of the language used... it's not great. He's old enough now that we can let him be exposed to it and use it as an opportunity to teach. Other things are much more subtle & subversive than mere foul or sexually suggestive language though. Something like "f--- those carebear wuss players that help all the triggered snowflakes that want everything handed to them" I mean, even if you agreed with some of socio-political themes this suggests, the particular language used is one of social division, derision, and disdain. Not "virtues" I'd like to instill in my kids.
SkyBelow 7y ago
>This is a bit harsh and naive. I would call it more fatalistic than naive. Even if we completely ignore cases related to technology we will find an overwhelming number of instances of children being harmed by neglectful parenting. Even if we ignored neglect and focused on active forms of child abuse, the numbers are horrendous. This is not a problem caused by technology nor one that can be fixed by limits placed on technology. I fear too strong a focus on specific issues like kids having access to an unfiltered google when the harms of neglectful parents are far greater, and when we have decided that parental freedoms are worth the trade off.

ineedasername 7y ago

Yes, as a parent of multiple kids, it's been extremely difficult to keep tabs and set boundaries on this sort of thing that both keeps my kids from awful content and doesn't make them feel we're suffocating them. I was thrilled when I was able to take away my child's unfettered YouTube access, which I had to constantly monitor and curate, in favor of YouTube kids which has 99.99% of the time presented appropriate content. Though now my oldest is aging out of that walled garden, and we're back to stricter monitoring. It's hard. I want my son to be able to watch folks playing games he likes, get tips & strategies etc., but some of the language used... it's not great. He's old enough now that we can let him be exposed to it and use it as an opportunity to teach. Other things are much more subtle & subversive than mere foul or sexually suggestive language though. Something like "f--- those carebear wuss players that help all the triggered snowflakes that want everything handed to them" I mean, even if you agreed with some of socio-political themes this suggests, the particular language used is one of social division, derision, and disdain. Not "virtues" I'd like to instill in my kids.

SkyBelow 7y ago

>This is a bit harsh and naive. I would call it more fatalistic than naive. Even if we completely ignore cases related to technology we will find an overwhelming number of instances of children being harmed by neglectful parenting. Even if we ignored neglect and focused on active forms of child abuse, the numbers are horrendous. This is not a problem caused by technology nor one that can be fixed by limits placed on technology. I fear too strong a focus on specific issues like kids having access to an unfiltered google when the harms of neglectful parents are far greater, and when we have decided that parental freedoms are worth the trade off.