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Yes, scalpers swoop them up in all online stores. They are even sold out on Amazon US, Canada, UK and DE. I was told only the ones with a N95 rating can be effe

Yes, scalpers swoop them up in all online stores. They are even sold out on Amazon US, Canada, UK and DE. I was told only the ones with a N95 rating can be effective against this virus. https://www.amazon.com/3M-Particulate-Respirator-8210-Pack/dp/B008MCUZZS https://www.amazon.com/3M-Particulate-Respirator-8210-Pack/d...

oefrha 7y ago
Hmm, but it is in stock on Amazon US right now? I also went to tmall.com, Alibaba’s Chinese online marketplace, and it appears they are in stock too: https://list.tmall.com/search_product.htm?q=%BF%DA%D5%D6n95&type=p&vmarket=&spm=875.7931836%2FB.a2227oh.d100&xl=%BF%DA%D5%D6_1&from=mallfp..pc_1_suggest https://list.tmall.com/search_product.htm?q=%BF%DA%D5%D6n95&...
- BiasRegularizer 7y ago
  Apparently (or so I was told) that the masks with ventilation holes are not nearly as effective. Hence my original link is one without a breathable hole. If you check Amazon again, all the hole-less N95 masks are all sold out.
  - oefrha 7y ago
    Your original link does say “in stock” at least for me. “Usually ships within 4 to 5 days”, but this isn’t a Prime/FBA product so it’s not clear if that’s just business as usual. Edit: What the hell with downvotes on a stated fact?
    - BiasRegularizer 7y ago
      Interesting. I am not seeing any availability here in Sweden. Perhaps all the international shipping options are gone. Since I am not in the US, I'd have to order it to ship directly to China.
    - thaumasiotes 7y ago
      For me, "Get it by February 4-5".
    - gamblor956 7y ago
      Not only were they in stock for me but I could have had them (the N95 ones without holes) delivered by the end of day today... Going to call bullshit on the claim that they're sold out in the US.
tosh 7y ago
surgical masks might be more effective (usability related) https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/health/public-should-use-surgical-masks-not-n95-masks-to-guard-against-wuhan-virus-spread https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/health/public-should-...
ValentineC 7y ago
> I was told only the ones with a N95 rating can be effective against this virus. N95 masks need to be fit properly [1], and are very uncomfortable for daily use. Surgical masks are a good compromise for going out in public, and mostly protect others from the mask-wearer. It's more important to practise good hygiene to avoid infection [2]. [1] https://www.osha.gov/video/respiratory_protection/fittesting_transcript.html https://www.osha.gov/video/respiratory_protection/fittesting... [2] https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/23/health/coronavirus-surgical-masks.html https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/23/health/coronavirus-surgic...
- thaumasiotes 7y ago
  > Surgical masks are a good compromise for going out in public, and mostly protect others from the mask-wearer. Under this model, if everyone panics and wears masks to prevent themselves from getting sick, the spread of the disease will be crippled because everyone's wearing masks and people who are sick can't infect anyone else. It's a great idea. This isn't really different from the herd immunity model of vaccination, where a lot of individuals getting vaccinated return a huge bonus to society in the form of herd immunity. If herd immunity were the only benefit, would we still want people to get vaccinated? Of course, that's why it's supposed to be mandatory.

oefrha 7y ago

Hmm, but it is in stock on Amazon US right now? I also went to tmall.com, Alibaba’s Chinese online marketplace, and it appears they are in stock too: https://list.tmall.com/search_product.htm?q=%BF%DA%D5%D6n95&type=p&vmarket=&spm=875.7931836%2FB.a2227oh.d100&xl=%BF%DA%D5%D6_1&from=mallfp..pc_1_suggest https://list.tmall.com/search_product.htm?q=%BF%DA%D5%D6n95&...

BiasRegularizer 7y ago
Apparently (or so I was told) that the masks with ventilation holes are not nearly as effective. Hence my original link is one without a breathable hole. If you check Amazon again, all the hole-less N95 masks are all sold out.
- oefrha 7y ago
  Your original link does say “in stock” at least for me. “Usually ships within 4 to 5 days”, but this isn’t a Prime/FBA product so it’s not clear if that’s just business as usual. Edit: What the hell with downvotes on a stated fact?
  - BiasRegularizer 7y ago
    Interesting. I am not seeing any availability here in Sweden. Perhaps all the international shipping options are gone. Since I am not in the US, I'd have to order it to ship directly to China.
  - thaumasiotes 7y ago
    For me, "Get it by February 4-5".
  - gamblor956 7y ago
    Not only were they in stock for me but I could have had them (the N95 ones without holes) delivered by the end of day today... Going to call bullshit on the claim that they're sold out in the US.

tosh 7y ago

surgical masks might be more effective (usability related) https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/health/public-should-use-surgical-masks-not-n95-masks-to-guard-against-wuhan-virus-spread https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/health/public-should-...

ValentineC 7y ago

> I was told only the ones with a N95 rating can be effective against this virus. N95 masks need to be fit properly [1], and are very uncomfortable for daily use. Surgical masks are a good compromise for going out in public, and mostly protect others from the mask-wearer. It's more important to practise good hygiene to avoid infection [2]. [1] https://www.osha.gov/video/respiratory_protection/fittesting_transcript.html https://www.osha.gov/video/respiratory_protection/fittesting... [2] https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/23/health/coronavirus-surgical-masks.html https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/23/health/coronavirus-surgic...

thaumasiotes 7y ago
> Surgical masks are a good compromise for going out in public, and mostly protect others from the mask-wearer. Under this model, if everyone panics and wears masks to prevent themselves from getting sick, the spread of the disease will be crippled because everyone's wearing masks and people who are sick can't infect anyone else. It's a great idea. This isn't really different from the herd immunity model of vaccination, where a lot of individuals getting vaccinated return a huge bonus to society in the form of herd immunity. If herd immunity were the only benefit, would we still want people to get vaccinated? Of course, that's why it's supposed to be mandatory.