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Regarding a disappearing UI: I'm probably not the only one who had to highlight the text to read it. In case the author is here, please reconsider the offwhite

by ibejoeb 16y ago

Regarding a disappearing UI: I'm probably not the only one who had to highlight the text to read it. In case the author is here, please reconsider the offwhite-on-white scheme.

maw 16y ago
I think it's even worse than grey-on-black, which is an achievement of sorts.
cletus 16y ago
+1 I for one cant take UI advice from anyone who fails the basic contrast ratio test.
- ugh 16y ago
  It’s not advice.
  - Semiapies 16y ago
    No. It's finger-smears on a screen.
- Dylan16807 16y ago
  Are you just saying the contrast ratio is bad or is there a specific rule of thumb for contrast? The text isn't what I would call 'off-white', it's about a 50% gray. Half of max contrast looks fine on my screen, is it calibrated strangely? How much contrast should there be?
kokoito 16y ago
You have a heart of gold, for actually taking the time to highlight it and not leave the page.
geedee77 16y ago
I was expecting a large background image to load because the text colour seemed so inappropriate to the actual background.
moe 16y ago
Perhaps also reconsider the wisdom of deliberately slashing 19% off the user's preferred font-size (css font-size is set to 0.81em). Well, readability bookmarklet to the rescue...
- DTrejo 16y ago
  Readability bookmarklet, for those who haven't heard of it before: https://www.readability.com/bookmarklets/ https://www.readability.com/bookmarklets/ Actually that's not it, I don't think. WTF arc90 got rid of the old readability bookmark; I don't want to sign up for anything.
  - shadowpwner 16y ago
    Here's the old readability JS. (bookmark it) javascript:(function(){readConvertLinksToFootnotes=false;readStyle='style-newspaper';readSize='size-medium';readMargin='margin-wide';_readability_script=document.createElement('script');_readability_script.type='text/javascript';_readability_script.src='http://lab.arc90.com/experiments/readability/js/readability.js?x='+(Math.random());document.documentElement.appendChild(_readability_script);_readability_css=document.createElement('link');_readability_css.rel='stylesheet';_readability_css.href='http://lab.arc90.com/experiments/readability/css/readability.css';_readability_css.type='text/css';_readability_css.media='all';document.documentElement.appendChild(_readability_css);_readability_print_css=document.createElement('link');_readability_print_css.rel='stylesheet';_readability_print_css.href='http://lab.arc90.com/experiments/readability/css/readability-print.css';_readability_print_css.media='print';_readability_print_css.type='text/css';document.getElementsByTagName('head')[0].appendChild(_readability_print_css);})();
Qz 16y ago
All that tumblr garbage at the bottom of the page could also use some selective disappearing...
dkersten 16y ago
I didn't even read this article, too much effort. I don't have perfect eyesight and am too lazy to look for the usability bookmarklet (its bookmarked somewhere.. but...)
ugh 16y ago
I upvoted you because you are obviously right but at the same time I’m once again astonished by how fascinated HN readers are by tangents about the linked website’s design. It just seems so irrelevant and pointless and has nothing to do with the content. It’s off topic and mean spirited, especially in a case like this where the author doesn’t give any advice. (It’s a bit different if the author writes about usability or design.) If you can’t read it don’t comment and don’t upvote. One nice comment about it (like yours) might be ok but eight? Seriously?
- georgemcbay 16y ago
  I didn't upvote you because in this specific case it is relevant. If someone's website exists to highlight design and the linked article is design-specific, I think it perfectly legitimate to point out that the design of the site, while arguably pretty, is a usability nightmare and this site fits in that description. I'm sure it looks great on the designer's computer, but he needs to learn the painful lesson that not everyone is viewing his website on a monitor of the exact same resolution and gamma he is using(I would guess a Macbook of some type considing the gamma and resolution (laptopish) that would be required for the site to be at least somewhat reasonable to use). If he can't get that right, how can we be expected to listen to him on issues of design or UX even when that just involves him showing positive bias towards various existing designs? If the link were to the blog of some programmer who was writing about some advanced algorithm that would be a totally different situation but it isn't. And in that case we'd probably point out he totally doesn't understand big-O notation (if he clearly didn't), regardless of how useful his algorithm actually is, for similar reasons.
  - ugh 16y ago
    I don’t see a reason to complain about it. Ignore and move on. Again, it’s not advice, it’s a neato visualization without any claim to expertise. It stands on its own. What annoys me that this happens all the time. It’s annoying (if there is more than one comment about it) and just not relevant.
- ibejoeb 16y ago
  > It’s off topic and mean spirited, especially in a case like this where the author doesn’t give any advice. Okay. This is not me being mean. I can do better than that. I couldn't read the text. I wrote what I did so that perhaps the author would know that a portion of his audience had a problem. My advice is increase the contrast between the background color and text color. Better?

by ibejoeb 16y ago

Regarding a disappearing UI: I'm probably not the only one who had to highlight the text to read it. In case the author is here, please reconsider the offwhite-on-white scheme.

maw 16y ago

I think it's even worse than grey-on-black, which is an achievement of sorts.

cletus 16y ago

+1 I for one cant take UI advice from anyone who fails the basic contrast ratio test.

ugh 16y ago
It’s not advice.
- Semiapies 16y ago
  No. It's finger-smears on a screen.
Dylan16807 16y ago
Are you just saying the contrast ratio is bad or is there a specific rule of thumb for contrast? The text isn't what I would call 'off-white', it's about a 50% gray. Half of max contrast looks fine on my screen, is it calibrated strangely? How much contrast should there be?

kokoito 16y ago

You have a heart of gold, for actually taking the time to highlight it and not leave the page.

geedee77 16y ago

I was expecting a large background image to load because the text colour seemed so inappropriate to the actual background.

moe 16y ago

Perhaps also reconsider the wisdom of deliberately slashing 19% off the user's preferred font-size (css font-size is set to 0.81em). Well, readability bookmarklet to the rescue...

DTrejo 16y ago
Readability bookmarklet, for those who haven't heard of it before: https://www.readability.com/bookmarklets/ https://www.readability.com/bookmarklets/ Actually that's not it, I don't think. WTF arc90 got rid of the old readability bookmark; I don't want to sign up for anything.
- shadowpwner 16y ago
  Here's the old readability JS. (bookmark it) javascript:(function(){readConvertLinksToFootnotes=false;readStyle='style-newspaper';readSize='size-medium';readMargin='margin-wide';_readability_script=document.createElement('script');_readability_script.type='text/javascript';_readability_script.src='http://lab.arc90.com/experiments/readability/js/readability.js?x='+(Math.random());document.documentElement.appendChild(_readability_script);_readability_css=document.createElement('link');_readability_css.rel='stylesheet';_readability_css.href='http://lab.arc90.com/experiments/readability/css/readability.css';_readability_css.type='text/css';_readability_css.media='all';document.documentElement.appendChild(_readability_css);_readability_print_css=document.createElement('link');_readability_print_css.rel='stylesheet';_readability_print_css.href='http://lab.arc90.com/experiments/readability/css/readability-print.css';_readability_print_css.media='print';_readability_print_css.type='text/css';document.getElementsByTagName('head')[0].appendChild(_readability_print_css);})();

Qz 16y ago

All that tumblr garbage at the bottom of the page could also use some selective disappearing...

dkersten 16y ago

I didn't even read this article, too much effort. I don't have perfect eyesight and am too lazy to look for the usability bookmarklet (its bookmarked somewhere.. but...)

ugh 16y ago

I upvoted you because you are obviously right but at the same time I’m once again astonished by how fascinated HN readers are by tangents about the linked website’s design. It just seems so irrelevant and pointless and has nothing to do with the content. It’s off topic and mean spirited, especially in a case like this where the author doesn’t give any advice. (It’s a bit different if the author writes about usability or design.) If you can’t read it don’t comment and don’t upvote. One nice comment about it (like yours) might be ok but eight? Seriously?

georgemcbay 16y ago
I didn't upvote you because in this specific case it is relevant. If someone's website exists to highlight design and the linked article is design-specific, I think it perfectly legitimate to point out that the design of the site, while arguably pretty, is a usability nightmare and this site fits in that description. I'm sure it looks great on the designer's computer, but he needs to learn the painful lesson that not everyone is viewing his website on a monitor of the exact same resolution and gamma he is using(I would guess a Macbook of some type considing the gamma and resolution (laptopish) that would be required for the site to be at least somewhat reasonable to use). If he can't get that right, how can we be expected to listen to him on issues of design or UX even when that just involves him showing positive bias towards various existing designs? If the link were to the blog of some programmer who was writing about some advanced algorithm that would be a totally different situation but it isn't. And in that case we'd probably point out he totally doesn't understand big-O notation (if he clearly didn't), regardless of how useful his algorithm actually is, for similar reasons.
- ugh 16y ago
  I don’t see a reason to complain about it. Ignore and move on. Again, it’s not advice, it’s a neato visualization without any claim to expertise. It stands on its own. What annoys me that this happens all the time. It’s annoying (if there is more than one comment about it) and just not relevant.
ibejoeb 16y ago
> It’s off topic and mean spirited, especially in a case like this where the author doesn’t give any advice. Okay. This is not me being mean. I can do better than that. I couldn't read the text. I wrote what I did so that perhaps the author would know that a portion of his audience had a problem. My advice is increase the contrast between the background color and text color. Better?