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That all sounds great, but what is their business model? How do I pay them for their service?

by choeger 7y ago

kevsim 7y ago
It's $2/month for unlimited requests, apparently: https://nextdns.io/pricing https://nextdns.io/pricing
- busymom0 7y ago
  That's surprisingly very reasonably priced.
  - squarefoot 7y ago
    Pricing is surely very reasonable, but I'm not comfortable with the idea of paying for not getting something. The whole system is flawed and building businesses on a flaw is a step in the wrong direction if we want to fuel motivation to solve that flaw.
    - grogenaut 7y ago
      The city of flint has a lot of water theyd like to sell you, it comes with extra so it follows your model. You should also love basic Hulu, they sell you a version that comes WITH added ads, such benefit. In reality there are plenty of places you are paying for refined or filtered products. Organic or pesticide free foods, gas (you or your supply chain use it), higher end CPUs (less defects), it goes on and on.
    - low_common 7y ago
      You're also paying for the Internet access. Go build one and we'll pay you.
  - AnIdiotOnTheNet 7y ago
    Is it? You can run a DNS server on a watch.
    - thebruce87m 7y ago
      Not on my watch
buschkowitz 7y ago
It is free during beta. Then essentially a freemium model: https://nextdns.io/pricing https://nextdns.io/pricing.
glitchc 7y ago
I checked. It seems to be free for the first 300,000 queries per month, then switches to a regular DNS (no blocking). Unlimited queries are $1.99 per month. https://nextdns.io/pricing https://nextdns.io/pricing
- amelius 7y ago
  Ok, but by paying you basically hand them your personal information which they can now tie to your internet access patterns. So now, besides your ISP, there's one more party with this info. EDIT: they accept cryptocurrencies, so the problem is slightly less critical.
  - tremon 7y ago
    In case you use their DOH service (or TLS), it's only them, not your ISP.
    - account42 7y ago
      You ISP still sees which IP addresses you eventually connect to.
      - ldavison 7y ago
        Which are mainly going to be owned by AWS, GCP, Azure, DO, or CloudFlare
    - a012 7y ago
      SNI (Server Name Indication) leak is still present and your ISP may know what website you're asking.
  - deleted 7y ago
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That all sounds great, but what is their business model? How do I pay them for their service?

kevsim 7y ago

It's $2/month for unlimited requests, apparently: https://nextdns.io/pricing https://nextdns.io/pricing

busymom0 7y ago
That's surprisingly very reasonably priced.
- squarefoot 7y ago
  Pricing is surely very reasonable, but I'm not comfortable with the idea of paying for not getting something. The whole system is flawed and building businesses on a flaw is a step in the wrong direction if we want to fuel motivation to solve that flaw.
  - grogenaut 7y ago
    The city of flint has a lot of water theyd like to sell you, it comes with extra so it follows your model. You should also love basic Hulu, they sell you a version that comes WITH added ads, such benefit. In reality there are plenty of places you are paying for refined or filtered products. Organic or pesticide free foods, gas (you or your supply chain use it), higher end CPUs (less defects), it goes on and on.
  - low_common 7y ago
    You're also paying for the Internet access. Go build one and we'll pay you.
- AnIdiotOnTheNet 7y ago
  Is it? You can run a DNS server on a watch.
  - thebruce87m 7y ago
    Not on my watch

buschkowitz 7y ago

It is free during beta. Then essentially a freemium model: https://nextdns.io/pricing https://nextdns.io/pricing.

glitchc 7y ago

I checked. It seems to be free for the first 300,000 queries per month, then switches to a regular DNS (no blocking). Unlimited queries are $1.99 per month. https://nextdns.io/pricing https://nextdns.io/pricing

amelius 7y ago
Ok, but by paying you basically hand them your personal information which they can now tie to your internet access patterns. So now, besides your ISP, there's one more party with this info. EDIT: they accept cryptocurrencies, so the problem is slightly less critical.
- tremon 7y ago
  In case you use their DOH service (or TLS), it's only them, not your ISP.
  - account42 7y ago
    You ISP still sees which IP addresses you eventually connect to.
    - ldavison 7y ago
      Which are mainly going to be owned by AWS, GCP, Azure, DO, or CloudFlare
  - a012 7y ago
    SNI (Server Name Indication) leak is still present and your ISP may know what website you're asking.
- deleted 7y ago
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