3 ms·

I have never seen an ethics course that actually answers useful questions and changes the behaviors of the those who take them. In the real world anyway being e

I have never seen an ethics course that actually answers useful questions and changes the behaviors of the those who take them. In the real world anyway being ethical is often a hinderance, and somebody else will be brought in to do the project (I have no moral issues with auto-shooting AI-targeting drones, if anything the world has a lot of bad guys[1] who needs to be dead with no civilian casualties[2]). Also remember, no good dead goes unpunished. [1]: as a minimum this would be the leadership of all countries that opposes freedom by jailing or killing members or leaders of the opposition. [2]: a seal team took out ISIS leader, but he still managed to blow his suicide vest and killed 3 of his kids.

vkou 7y ago
> I have never seen an ethics course that actually answers useful questions and changes the behaviors of the those who take them. My ethics course handled a number of issues. The only one I viscerally remember was Therac-25. > that opposes freedom by jailing or killing members or leaders of the opposition. With such a broad definition of bad guys, I think you've just listed the leaders of every country. I'm not sure that's your intent, but it if it is, it's quite a radical position.
- deleted 7y ago
  [deleted]
- thu2111 7y ago
  Therac-25? That's normally taught as a safety and correctness issue, not an ethical issue. What exactly is the ethical lesson from Therac-25? Always use hardware interlocks when building machines that can kill people? Don't be over-confident and believe user bug reports? There were lots of lessons to learn from Therac-25 but I'm not sure any of them would be classified as ethical.
imtringued 7y ago
Is that your personal definition of ethics? Just kill anyone you disagree with? No that's just a crazy fantasy. It is unethical to pretend to "help" someone by intentionally using an ineffective solution to make yourself look good without putting in the effort. This is basically a lesser form of hero complex/syndrome. You see a problem, think of a solution that makes you look like a hero and everyone is worse off except you. Celebrities visiting poor african villages is probably the most obvious occurence of this. They book an expensive flight and hotel and drive a car and when they arrive they just do minor help for a week but hey everyone sees it on my instagram account!!!

vkou 7y ago

> I have never seen an ethics course that actually answers useful questions and changes the behaviors of the those who take them. My ethics course handled a number of issues. The only one I viscerally remember was Therac-25. > that opposes freedom by jailing or killing members or leaders of the opposition. With such a broad definition of bad guys, I think you've just listed the leaders of every country. I'm not sure that's your intent, but it if it is, it's quite a radical position.

deleted 7y ago
[deleted]
thu2111 7y ago
Therac-25? That's normally taught as a safety and correctness issue, not an ethical issue. What exactly is the ethical lesson from Therac-25? Always use hardware interlocks when building machines that can kill people? Don't be over-confident and believe user bug reports? There were lots of lessons to learn from Therac-25 but I'm not sure any of them would be classified as ethical.

imtringued 7y ago

Is that your personal definition of ethics? Just kill anyone you disagree with? No that's just a crazy fantasy. It is unethical to pretend to "help" someone by intentionally using an ineffective solution to make yourself look good without putting in the effort. This is basically a lesser form of hero complex/syndrome. You see a problem, think of a solution that makes you look like a hero and everyone is worse off except you. Celebrities visiting poor african villages is probably the most obvious occurence of this. They book an expensive flight and hotel and drive a car and when they arrive they just do minor help for a week but hey everyone sees it on my instagram account!!!