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yesss but people who take jobs at FAANG companies are generally not in that situation

by jes5199 7y ago

takeda 7y ago
Also, maybe I live under a rock, but the N in FAANG I consider ethical, others not so much.
- briandear 7y ago
  How is Apple not ethical? As far as Netflix, one might explore their culture a bit before giving them a pass. [1] [1] https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/thr-esq/netflix-settles-executive-claiming-widespread-sexual-harassment-1050313 https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/thr-esq/netflix-settles-ex...
  - uoaei 7y ago
    Besides the working conditions at contracted factories? One could make the argument that advertising at and subsequently locking someone into the walled-garden ecosystem is unethical because you are artificially inflating the consumers' opportunity costs. Some would look at that and call it a milder form of price-gouging. It's a really weak argument compared to literal human rights abuses, but we're talking about ethics here, which is necessarily broad.
  - jonfw 7y ago
    There is absolutely zero evidence in that article. A lawsuit is not an indication of guilt by itself, particularly when the plaintiff was recently terminated.
Nasrudith 7y ago
FAANG being even in the running is downright bizzare in my opinion given the countless companies which are worse and don't receive such condemnation. Cynically I suspect a propaganda push by rivals, more innocently a stupid human anti-novelty bias where a self driving car hitting someone at a dangerously designed road crossing at a blind intersection with a high speed limit worries more than at a stop sign scares people more than a drunk driver running over a bus stop full of kids. Some of it might be because of information compression of things that are less relevant or taken for granted like "Don't work for the Mob, Blackwater, or the NSA." are essentially a given."
- jes5199 7y ago
  I think it’s because there’s debate about the ethics of these companies that they come up in these conversations. I don’t feel like I need to say “don’t work at Palantir” - if you build surveillance tech at Palantir then our politics are so incompatible that I don’t think I can convince you. But plenty of my friends do decide to work at Google - when for me, Google has crossed the line and I won’t work there

yesss but people who take jobs at FAANG companies are generally not in that situation

takeda 7y ago

Also, maybe I live under a rock, but the N in FAANG I consider ethical, others not so much.

briandear 7y ago
How is Apple not ethical? As far as Netflix, one might explore their culture a bit before giving them a pass. [1] [1] https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/thr-esq/netflix-settles-executive-claiming-widespread-sexual-harassment-1050313 https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/thr-esq/netflix-settles-ex...
- uoaei 7y ago
  Besides the working conditions at contracted factories? One could make the argument that advertising at and subsequently locking someone into the walled-garden ecosystem is unethical because you are artificially inflating the consumers' opportunity costs. Some would look at that and call it a milder form of price-gouging. It's a really weak argument compared to literal human rights abuses, but we're talking about ethics here, which is necessarily broad.
- jonfw 7y ago
  There is absolutely zero evidence in that article. A lawsuit is not an indication of guilt by itself, particularly when the plaintiff was recently terminated.

Nasrudith 7y ago

FAANG being even in the running is downright bizzare in my opinion given the countless companies which are worse and don't receive such condemnation. Cynically I suspect a propaganda push by rivals, more innocently a stupid human anti-novelty bias where a self driving car hitting someone at a dangerously designed road crossing at a blind intersection with a high speed limit worries more than at a stop sign scares people more than a drunk driver running over a bus stop full of kids. Some of it might be because of information compression of things that are less relevant or taken for granted like "Don't work for the Mob, Blackwater, or the NSA." are essentially a given."

jes5199 7y ago
I think it’s because there’s debate about the ethics of these companies that they come up in these conversations. I don’t feel like I need to say “don’t work at Palantir” - if you build surveillance tech at Palantir then our politics are so incompatible that I don’t think I can convince you. But plenty of my friends do decide to work at Google - when for me, Google has crossed the line and I won’t work there