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> python is probably a more relevant choice. Python doesn't have any standard graphical IDE or even GUI widgets. No modern language can create GUI applications

> python is probably a more relevant choice. Python doesn't have any standard graphical IDE or even GUI widgets. No modern language can create GUI applications with the ease of use of Delphi, except maybe .NET (which is based on Delphi).

oefrha 7y ago
tkinter wants to have a word. See also wxPython, PyQt, etc. Not saying they’re as easy as Delphi.
mar77i 7y ago
We do have webbrowsers for GUI widgets and beyond these days. By that metric, Javascript would definitely be a more relevant option.
- aortega 7y ago
  Try to create a browser gui application using javascript, see how many resources it uses and how much time it takes you compared with Delphi, and just then, get out of my lawn.
- Koshkin 7y ago
  Indeed it would - very easy to start with; and, today’s web browsers are extremely powerful VMs.
trimboffle 7y ago
Building desktop GUI apps is pretty niche these days compared with building browser apps.
- dvfjsdhgfv 7y ago
  The key question is: should it be so? Or: wouldn't the world be a better place if we had some equilibrium between web and desktop apps?
  - trimboffle 7y ago
    No. But I can see this thread is populated with Delphi diehards.
    - dvfjsdhgfv 7y ago
      I have nothing to do with Delphi. But I miss the time when users were in control of their data, and you could still use your computer normally offline.
    - zer0tonin 7y ago
      I'm definitely not a Delphi diehard, but I tend to think it's a good thing to have computation done on my largely powerful enough, instead of it being done on a small VM at the other side of the world which doesn't provide me with any control over my data.
pjc50 7y ago
.NET is definitely the easiest possible way to do a widget UI, but it's not based on Delphi in any meaningful sense. Its closest ancestor is Java, via the short lived "J++" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Visual_J%2B%2B https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Visual_J%2B%2B (Android later did basically the same thing with Dalvik)
- elteto 7y ago
  I think the parent comment meant "philosophically" based on Delphi since Anders Hejlsberg, the creator of C#, was also the creator of Turbo Pascal and chief architect of Delphi. He left Borland for Microsoft in the mid-90s.
- antaviana 7y ago
  Let’s not forget that the original chief architect of Delphi and the lead architect of C# since its beginnings are the same person so I would dare to say there had ro be some influence sneaking in.
- aortega 7y ago
  Most Delphi devs were hired by Microsoft to build .net. Thats why .NET libs and the Delphi VCL are very very similar.
briandear 7y ago
> No modern language can create GUI applications with the ease of use of Delphi Swift and Interface Buikder?

oefrha 7y ago

tkinter wants to have a word. See also wxPython, PyQt, etc. Not saying they’re as easy as Delphi.

mar77i 7y ago

We do have webbrowsers for GUI widgets and beyond these days. By that metric, Javascript would definitely be a more relevant option.

aortega 7y ago
Try to create a browser gui application using javascript, see how many resources it uses and how much time it takes you compared with Delphi, and just then, get out of my lawn.
Koshkin 7y ago
Indeed it would - very easy to start with; and, today’s web browsers are extremely powerful VMs.

trimboffle 7y ago

Building desktop GUI apps is pretty niche these days compared with building browser apps.

dvfjsdhgfv 7y ago
The key question is: should it be so? Or: wouldn't the world be a better place if we had some equilibrium between web and desktop apps?
- trimboffle 7y ago
  No. But I can see this thread is populated with Delphi diehards.
  - dvfjsdhgfv 7y ago
    I have nothing to do with Delphi. But I miss the time when users were in control of their data, and you could still use your computer normally offline.
  - zer0tonin 7y ago
    I'm definitely not a Delphi diehard, but I tend to think it's a good thing to have computation done on my largely powerful enough, instead of it being done on a small VM at the other side of the world which doesn't provide me with any control over my data.

pjc50 7y ago

.NET is definitely the easiest possible way to do a widget UI, but it's not based on Delphi in any meaningful sense. Its closest ancestor is Java, via the short lived "J++" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Visual_J%2B%2B https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Visual_J%2B%2B (Android later did basically the same thing with Dalvik)

elteto 7y ago
I think the parent comment meant "philosophically" based on Delphi since Anders Hejlsberg, the creator of C#, was also the creator of Turbo Pascal and chief architect of Delphi. He left Borland for Microsoft in the mid-90s.
antaviana 7y ago
Let’s not forget that the original chief architect of Delphi and the lead architect of C# since its beginnings are the same person so I would dare to say there had ro be some influence sneaking in.
aortega 7y ago
Most Delphi devs were hired by Microsoft to build .net. Thats why .NET libs and the Delphi VCL are very very similar.

briandear 7y ago

> No modern language can create GUI applications with the ease of use of Delphi Swift and Interface Buikder?