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It's a hugely privileged point of view to think that people could pass up multiple dollars of discounts to preserve the rather abstract notion of their privacy.
by zweep 7y ago
It's a hugely privileged point of view to think that people could pass up multiple dollars of discounts to preserve the rather abstract notion of their privacy. That's why this shit needs to be regulated with the force of law and not make unreasonable expectations of consumers.
- Animats 7y agoThat's why I don't shop at Safeway. There's a huge increase in price unless you have a "Safeway club card". Also, the lines are much shorter at Lucky's.
- LargoLasskhyfv 7y agoThat may be the case, but it's also different in different places. I never lived in something which is called a food desert, and had always multiple choices to shop, even in walking distance. From that point of view these coupon- and bonus programs were always ridiculous to me. Always paying cash. Not even per debit/credit card. Always ignoring any points which are valid for a limited amount of time for the equivalent of colored glass marbles. Edit: And while paying cash, don't forget switching off your smartphone, or other gadgets which spam their unique identifiers into all sorts of nets. (Before entering the shop, or even the parking space outside) Or not carrying one to begin with. Sounds crazy? I don't care. It's very relaxing :-)
- logicchains 7y agoOr, maybe they just care a lot less about privacy than you do. I'm certainly not poor but I'd happily save a couple dollars per shopping trip in exchange for the supermarket having more details on my shopping habits, and the majority of people I know act similarly. Just because you feel very strongly about something, doesn't mean other people are wrong because they don't care so much about it. Is it so hard to imagine that some people might actually be happy to give up a bit of purchasing information in exchange for paying less for things? It seems like the height of arrogance to demand that people not be allowed to do something without even asking them how they feel about doing it. Or maybe you don't need to ask them, because you know better than them?
- diffeomorphism 7y agoOh, no no. You see these people are happy to be exploited. It seems like the height of arrogance to demand that they cannot be exploited. But I don't feel exploited, so nobody else can possibly be right? Surely, you don't need to ask that, since you know better already.
- TulliusCicero 7y agoHow is it "exploiting" to give personal info in exchange for saving money? As long as what's going on is transparent -- which I think is something regulations are good for -- why is it exploitative? Are those rewards systems for filling out surveys also exploitative?
- humanrebar 7y agoIt's fair to say that tracking is not obviously disclaimed as part of the sign up process. The loyalty rewards are emphasized, often exclusively.
- TulliusCicero 7y agoRight, which is why I said regulations would be helpful for that.
- alpaca128 7y ago> As long as what's going on is transparent I wouldn't consider "middle of some license agreement" to be transparent enough, and I'm sure most people aren't fully aware of what data is tracked and how it can be used.
- TulliusCicero 7y agoSure, so regulations that focus on transparency would be good. That's different from saying that trading privacy for discounts is inherently exploitative.
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- vkou 7y ago> to preserve the rather abstract notion of their privacy. Not to mention that unless you're paying in gold coins, your credit/debit processor will sell all your payment flow, anyways.
- khc 7y agoThe rich and privileged never stops trying to take freedom away from the ignorant poor.