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I really wish you could just directly pay for services. A hundredth of a cent per visit would make most abuse un-profitable while still allowing very affordable

by gok 7y ago

I really wish you could just directly pay for services. A hundredth of a cent per visit would make most abuse un-profitable while still allowing very affordable procrastination.

algeoMA 7y ago
I also hope this happens. It would be interesting too, if it was bidirectional (services paying you to use them. Payment for your data, essentially).
awinter-py 7y ago
(1) totally agree re money being an answer here, (2) not sure it solves DDOS mitigation, especially if you're giving away a free preview
sneak 7y ago
This would make search engines impossible, sadly.
- z3t4 7y ago
  Contrary, I think it would make search engines better!
- Dylan16807 7y ago
  Why do you think that?
perl4ever 7y ago
People always say "why, why not micropayments"? Micropayments require even smaller transaction fees. Really small transaction fees require centralized regulation and economies of scale, i.e. government control and monopoly. You can't have your freedom and your frictionless markets both. The more anarchy, the more expensive buying and selling is, and the more business models and options for wealth creation simply can't work.
- Dylan16807 7y ago
  > Really small transaction fees require centralized regulation and economies of scale, i.e. government control and monopoly. No they don't. I could sign up for the ten most popular micropayment services and the fees would be about the same as if I signed up for just one.
  - perl4ever 7y ago
    Are there ten popular micropayment services? Does it cost anything in time and effort to use them? Who do you trust to tell you which micropayment services are good and trustworthy?
    - Dylan16807 7y ago
      > Are there ten popular micropayment services? It exists just as much as your government monopoly. We're talking about a world where sites let people pay microtransactions, not the current state of the real world. I'm just pointing out that it is definitely not necessary to have government control to have really small transaction fees. > Does it cost anything in time and effort to use them? Whatever the government version you proposed would do, let's keep it simple and make them act exactly the same. > Who do you trust to tell you which micropayment services are good and trustworthy? I dunno, who tells you that visa or stripe or kofi is good and trustworthy? If creators flock to a site, they'll draw in users.

by gok 7y ago

I really wish you could just directly pay for services. A hundredth of a cent per visit would make most abuse un-profitable while still allowing very affordable procrastination.

algeoMA 7y ago

I also hope this happens. It would be interesting too, if it was bidirectional (services paying you to use them. Payment for your data, essentially).

awinter-py 7y ago

(1) totally agree re money being an answer here, (2) not sure it solves DDOS mitigation, especially if you're giving away a free preview

sneak 7y ago

This would make search engines impossible, sadly.

z3t4 7y ago
Contrary, I think it would make search engines better!
Dylan16807 7y ago
Why do you think that?

perl4ever 7y ago

People always say "why, why not micropayments"? Micropayments require even smaller transaction fees. Really small transaction fees require centralized regulation and economies of scale, i.e. government control and monopoly. You can't have your freedom and your frictionless markets both. The more anarchy, the more expensive buying and selling is, and the more business models and options for wealth creation simply can't work.

Dylan16807 7y ago
> Really small transaction fees require centralized regulation and economies of scale, i.e. government control and monopoly. No they don't. I could sign up for the ten most popular micropayment services and the fees would be about the same as if I signed up for just one.
- perl4ever 7y ago
  Are there ten popular micropayment services? Does it cost anything in time and effort to use them? Who do you trust to tell you which micropayment services are good and trustworthy?
  - Dylan16807 7y ago
    > Are there ten popular micropayment services? It exists just as much as your government monopoly. We're talking about a world where sites let people pay microtransactions, not the current state of the real world. I'm just pointing out that it is definitely not necessary to have government control to have really small transaction fees. > Does it cost anything in time and effort to use them? Whatever the government version you proposed would do, let's keep it simple and make them act exactly the same. > Who do you trust to tell you which micropayment services are good and trustworthy? I dunno, who tells you that visa or stripe or kofi is good and trustworthy? If creators flock to a site, they'll draw in users.