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Wine 5.0
- azinman2 7y agoHas anyone tried using AVISynth and various popular plugins like QTGMC with wine under Linux? I’m starting to put together an automatic pipeline to capture old VHS tapes and automatically digitize them, and I’m debating the OS. Windows currently seems to have the best implemented deinterlacing algorithms, and avisynth is pretty nice for repeatable post processing pipelines.
- AndrewUnmuted 7y agoIs there a reason you cannot use VapourSynth? You should probably check it out if you’re thinking AVs is your best bet, you may be delightfully surprised by the improved quality and speed.
- ubercow13 7y agoYes I use AviSynth and AvsPMod all the time under Wine. I use the Avisynth+ 64 bit version and it works great, QTGMC and even SVP with OpenCL acceleration work fine. I can give you my wine prefix if you want. However like the sibling says, if you're doing something automated I'd recommend just using VapourSynth. QTGMC was ported to it ages ago and it will work better. I only continue to use AviSynth because the AvsPMod interface is still much better than the VSEdit equivalent, IMO.
- azinman2 7y agoThanks all! Didn’t know about vaporsynth.
- skrowl 7y agoWhile reading low level API stuff is interesting, give us the meat. Is there a list of which games did not work in 4.x that do work now, or worked in 4.x but are improved now?
- brian_herman__ 7y agoProbably want to goto https://winebottler.kronenberg.org/ https://winebottler.kronenberg.org/ or some similar site for that information.
- brian_herman__ 7y agohttps://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Wine-5.0-RC6-Released https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Wine-5.0... Here is a partial list of fixed games.
- jandrese 7y ago> Some of the fixes in Wine 5.0-RC6 are for Brothers In Arms - Hell's Highway, Tomb Raider, The Witcher Enhanced Edition, Serious Sam Classic, and other games. There are also fixes for applications like 7-Zip, Acrobat Reader, and Pale Moon. That's a really short list. Hopefully there are no regressions on other games to cancel out the progress. That said, I've been pretty happy with Proton. More games work than don't, although if the game you like is kind of obscure the chances of it working do drop off. Also some games outright check if they're running under Wine and refuse to run, like Roblox.
- jhoward321 7y agoThat's only the changes from that particular release candidate. If you go look at the other RC changelists you'll see the actual list is much larger
- takeda 7y agoThis is not MAME, it emulates API of an OS that has very large amount of software it runs. I think the titles listed are ones that developers concentrated specifically on (also another person below mentioned that it was only relevant to this RC) to make them work, it's very likely that much more software was fixed.
- slantyyz 7y ago
- donatj 7y agoAny word on support for 32 bit Windows applications on MacOS Catalina?
- JohnTHaller 7y agoLast I checked it was in a very early stage, so I wouldn't expect anything anytime soon. Here's the relevant discussion: https://forum.winehq.org/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=32590 https://forum.winehq.org/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=32590 You can downgrade to MacOS with proper 32-bit support, purchase Crossover 19, or ask Apple to put the libraries back in so tons of software people paid for continues to work.
- ebg13 7y ago> ask Apple to put the libraries back in so tons of software people paid for continues to work Reversing course on this would be very against Apple's longstanding m.o. of breaking backwards compatibility with every new OS version. Looking forward is how they make the rest of the world advance at the expense of a lot of bloodied bodies left on the floor.
- selectodude 7y agoFortunately Catalina is still such a disaster for me (I’ve had to downgrade twice since I stupidly tried to upgrade twice) that Mojave might be my Snow Leopard v2. I wish Windows ran better in boot camp, I’d jump off macOS indefinitely if I could.
- amedvednikov 7y agoRuns ok for me, what are the issues?
- selectodude 7y agoMy laptop reliably kernel panics every night.
- kensai 7y agoCan I run natively on Linux Windows 10 games? That's the Wine I want to taste! :D
- swebs 7y agoMost games work nowadays, but there's still some that don't. Check https://www.protondb.com https://www.protondb.com for a compatibility list.
- papacho 7y agoI think he means UWP games.
- squarefoot 7y agoDo a search on Youtube ("gamename + wine + linux" usually works). When a game becomes playable under WINE someone eventually will publish a video showing the gameplay and/or any tricks, when necessary, to play the game. You might also be interested in Playonlinux (.com) which is a GUI frontend to WINE which helps in installing games and other software.
- Glyptodon 7y agoSteam/Proton and Lutris cover a lot.
- shmerl 7y agoFor many of them you can and the number of unplayable games is gradually shrinking. You can check here: * https://appdb.winehq.org https://appdb.winehq.org * https://www.protondb.com https://www.protondb.com
- SquareWheel 7y agoLooks like a great release. Wine works like magic, and it's a huge boon towards making Linux a daily driver OS. Big thanks to the developers.
- stingraycharles 7y agoYup! Just had a LAN party with some of my friends, and we usually play very old games; think: red alert 2, Warcraft 3, etc. The irony with these old games is that wine is actually better equipped at emulating these very old environments, and as such has much better compatibility. I had to go all kinds of hoops of installing old winsock32 drivers etc on windows 10, but all that works out of the box with wine!
- arminiusreturns 7y agoIt's good to remember lots of this is because of Codeweavers hard work on the paid/supported version of Wine. Sometimes I think I'd go sweep floors just to get a foot in the door there because I align with their business objectives so much. If you like what wine has become, don't forget to thank Codweavers!
- coldpie 7y agoWe don't need any floor sweepers right now, but if you are a skilled C programmer, we are hiring!
- arminiusreturns 7y agoUnfortunately I am not(Ops,SRE type here), but keep up the good work anyway!
- CharlesW 7y ago> If you like what wine has become, don't forget to thank Codweavers! Yes! I'm sure they appreciate kind words, but I thanked them by buying Crossover.
- m-p-3 7y ago
- DoofusOfDeath 7y agoWhat's the relationship between Wine development and Valve's Proton? Is Proton just a fork of Wine? And if so, do patches flow in both directions?
- wheybags 7y agoProton is mostly a fork of wine with some not-yet-merged patches, combined with preinstalled dxvk (dx11 implemented in vulkan). AFAIK patches flow both ways.
- kagenouta 7y ago> dx11 implemented in Vulkan Also 9 and 10, FYI. DXVK targeted 10/11 initially, and merged in D9VK (a separate but similar project covering DX9) about a month ago. Proton also has a branch that bundles in VKD3D (Vulkan layer for DX12), but that's still experimental at this point.
- Rebelgecko 7y agoIIRC Proton is subcontracted out to Codeweavers, who are also known for making a commercial fork of Wine called Crossover (I should mention they're really good about upstreaming improvements back into Wine— I haven't looked at the numbers but I wouldn't be surprised if most of the commits in Wine were coming from Codeweavers employees)
- dguaraglia 7y agoIf I recall correctly, Codeweavers does most development of Wine, Crossover is just the commercially licensed + support version of the product.
- brnt 7y agoProton is a 'distro' of Wine that includes DXVK and is tuned to support games first and foremost. DXVK is a 'regular' Windows program translating DirectX to Vulkan, which makes enables a sort of pass through of that API.
- boofgod 7y agoI wish they'd fix the game Civilization 3 :,(
- i386 7y agoStill my favorite game
- bovermyer 7y agoWhat happened to Józef Kucia?
- mrpippy 7y agohttps://www.codeweavers.com/about/blogs/jwhite/2019/09/08/a-tragic-loss https://www.codeweavers.com/about/blogs/jwhite/2019/09/08/a-...
- pantalaimon 7y agoDied in a caving accident https://www.codeweavers.com/about/blogs/jwhite/2019/09/08/a-tragic-loss https://www.codeweavers.com/about/blogs/jwhite/2019/09/08/a-...
- bovermyer 7y agoThat's very sad. =( But, at least he died doing something he loved.
- jwildeboer 7y agoPlease someone rename Wine 5.0 to LSW - Linux Services for Windows :)
- als0 7y agoLinux Subsystem for Windows would make a bit more sense...oh wait...
- briffle 7y agoWSL, Windows Subsystem for Linux
- slantyyz 7y agoIsn't Wine also for MacOS too though?
- chabad360 7y agoWindows Subsystem for Unix...
- Koshkin 7y agoCyglin
- adamc 7y agoNot sure of the wording, but the acroynm should be SLUM.
- dmos62 7y agoHSASIBSIAP: Hope Someone Already Solved It, Because Setup Is a Pain.
- matthberg 7y agoGlad to see the graphics support improvements! A bit off topic, yet does anyone have experience running Adobe CC products (Illustrator, Photoshop mainly) with Wine? The following page has stats for older versions, yet if anyone's tried CC2020 I'd love to hear about it. https://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=vendor&iId=12 https://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=vendor&iId...
- sp332 7y agoEdit: never mind, I thought this review was recent enough but it was for Wine 4.21 Photoshop CC2020 compatibility is rated "Garbage". https://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=38516 https://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iI... [Edited to hopefully be clearer]
- paulcarroty 7y agoTested Photoshop 2020 in rc6, works fine, but hardware acceleration is slow, better to disable it. No crashes.
- modzu 7y agoyaaayyy
- paulcarroty 7y agov5.0 update : OpenGL works fine in X session, still slow in Wayland.
- tempodox 7y agoThis is great news! A big Thank You to the Wine maintainers! Wine lets me run some non-mainstream compilers and IDEs that would otherwise require Windows.
- idoubtit 7y agoI've recently used the wine 5.0RC from Debian testing, and my experience is mitigated. Once the software runs in Wine, it's impressive how smooth it can be. Be getting there was a lot work, in my experience. Playing videos is a mess. winegstreamer relies on the system's gstreamer1.0, but, even after installing plugin-(good,ugly,bad), I couldn't make it work. wmv crashed, mpeg1 failed, mpeg4 was garbage. Various tricks are necessary: enabling devenum and quartz through winecfg, disabling winegstreamer, converting video formats, installing ffdshow through winetricks or externals codecs... The console log was hardly useful when wine crashed. For example, a fatal error in msvcrt90 was caused by a missing font, but the default log made no mention of fonts, and even the `warn+all` level of logs was not clear. Fixing this and other problems took hours, and my final result was far from perfect. `winetricks` for fonts declares font substitution in Wine's registry, though Wine's changelog mentions using fontconfig, so I did not understand how fonts are handled (it's already hard to grasp in Linux, adding a layer won't make it simpler). Overall, Wine is impressive, but, for some applications that are not documented for Wine and not packaged with PlayOnLinux, it may be hard to run them under Wine.
- sammorrowdrums 7y agoAt least the Valve Proton work is helping to run a lot of games on Steam too. (Of course there is Proton tricks too... and some games do require special settings) I feel that the momentum around wine is building. Hopefully the issues you are mentioning will improve.
- teh_klev 7y ago> I've recently used the wine 5.0RC from Debian testing, and my experience is mitigated. Not sure you really meant "mitigated" here, perhaps "mixed" is what you meant?
- m-p-3 7y agoIf the parent commenter is francophone it's possible he used the word "mitigated" because it looked similar to mitigé, which basically translate to "mixed" in English.
- Yhippa 7y agoPls be compatible with 64-bit Catalina
- MadWombat 7y agoUnfortunately, my main reason for keeping Windows is music recording. Until I can get my DAW and all my plugins working I am stuck in Windows land.
- Forbo 7y agoYou may not be interested in learning a new DAW, but if you're feeling up to it Bitwig has native Linux support.
- MadWombat 7y agoI could learn a new DAW, but my library of Native Instruments plugins is a problem.
- fractalf 7y agoI use BitWig on linux with LinVST and run lots of win vsts just fine. Not all though, but most
- fulldecent2 7y agoI just checked out Bitwig. Apparently it is a for-money app which is not available in the Mac App Store. So far, every not-free-open-source app I have seen which is not on the Mac App Store has caused problems: - Spotify: does weird things to start at login and hide it from your system's start-at-login settings - Dropbox: phishes you to get your root password - Panic Transmit and Coda: exfiltrates your ~/.ssh/id_rsa file while not clearly documenting this For 399 USD, I had hoped Bitwig could manage to get its app set up with sandboxing and into the store.
- dkonofalski 7y agoWhat's this about Transmit? Source for that? I use Transmit religiously and haven't heard anything about this.
- andai 7y agoFL Studio works great for me under wine. No problems in over ten years!
- JorgeGT 7y agoHas someone managed to install and activate a recent version of Office? I managed to install but it never discovered/talked to the KMS server of my uni.
- number6 7y agoOffice 365 with Codeweaver
- shmerl 7y agoCongrats to the Wine team! And don't forget wonderful dxvk project as well, which made DX9-DX11 games playable with great performance on Linux.
- lostmsu 7y agoI'd love to see WPF running in Wine, since it is open source now.
- coldpie 7y agoThere is progress being made there right now, follow this bug https://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=24501 https://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=24501
- GnarfGnarf 7y agoIn my experience, the average macOS user is disappointed with apps that run under Wine.