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You say this as if they actually are actually having things go wrong on stream. This test was exactly as planned. The one failure they did have unintentionally

You say this as if they actually are actually having things go wrong on stream. This test was exactly as planned. The one failure they did have unintentionally blow up (the dragon fueling explosion) was actually not on a live stream. All that did kinda work for their attempts at landing the first stage a few years back though, however that was heavily wrapped in “experiment” and Was PR covered at every moment.

mcbutterbunz 7y ago
There was the 2016 explosion of a falcon 9 during a static fire. Also a falcon 9 explosion during flight in 2015. Not all accidents have been on an official live stream but I’ve seen more accidents from Spacex than I’ve seen launches from Boeing and friends.
TaylorAlexander 7y ago
They’ve had two falcon 9 systems explode unintentionally. The CRS-7 system failed in flight, and AMOS-6 failed on the launch pad during fueling. They also unintentionally blew up a Crew Dragon capsule. It is true that they do testing differently from Boeing. Boeing uses a NASA testing plan where hardware is verified on the ground through extensive part or subsystem-level testing. This method has a downside which is that many things end up needing a higher factor of safety than absolutely necessary due to uncertainty in the risk calculations. SpaceX uses a different testing strategy where a lot more stuff is tested as a complete system. There is increased potential for full system failures, which we have seen, but the entire system can be vetted more quickly.
- copperx 7y ago
  Now I know which spacecraft I would prefer to ride.
  - rbanffy 7y ago
    Just wait for the next generation Boeing Starliner MAX...
- rbanffy 7y ago
  > SpaceX uses a different testing strategy where a lot more stuff is tested as a complete system. I'm sure they are tested as integrated systems, but they are also exercised extensively ahead of that. The Super Dracos used for the launch escape system have been test-fired since well before the Crew Dragon got its name.
- BurnGpuBurn 7y ago
  Wait, Boeing does testing? Should've done that with MCAS then.
- m4rtink 7y ago
  Just adding that AMOS-6 actually failed ruing fueling failed before a planned hot fire test, not during fueling before a planned launch. Due to that, it was not on an official live stream. Though I think it was recorded by at least one unofficial one covering the hot fire.

mcbutterbunz 7y ago

There was the 2016 explosion of a falcon 9 during a static fire. Also a falcon 9 explosion during flight in 2015. Not all accidents have been on an official live stream but I’ve seen more accidents from Spacex than I’ve seen launches from Boeing and friends.

TaylorAlexander 7y ago

They’ve had two falcon 9 systems explode unintentionally. The CRS-7 system failed in flight, and AMOS-6 failed on the launch pad during fueling. They also unintentionally blew up a Crew Dragon capsule. It is true that they do testing differently from Boeing. Boeing uses a NASA testing plan where hardware is verified on the ground through extensive part or subsystem-level testing. This method has a downside which is that many things end up needing a higher factor of safety than absolutely necessary due to uncertainty in the risk calculations. SpaceX uses a different testing strategy where a lot more stuff is tested as a complete system. There is increased potential for full system failures, which we have seen, but the entire system can be vetted more quickly.

copperx 7y ago
Now I know which spacecraft I would prefer to ride.
- rbanffy 7y ago
  Just wait for the next generation Boeing Starliner MAX...
rbanffy 7y ago
> SpaceX uses a different testing strategy where a lot more stuff is tested as a complete system. I'm sure they are tested as integrated systems, but they are also exercised extensively ahead of that. The Super Dracos used for the launch escape system have been test-fired since well before the Crew Dragon got its name.
BurnGpuBurn 7y ago
Wait, Boeing does testing? Should've done that with MCAS then.
m4rtink 7y ago
Just adding that AMOS-6 actually failed ruing fueling failed before a planned hot fire test, not during fueling before a planned launch. Due to that, it was not on an official live stream. Though I think it was recorded by at least one unofficial one covering the hot fire.