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Isn’t “first come first serve” fair?

by appleiigs 7y ago

klodolph 7y ago
It doesn’t seem fair to me, it seems like it favors people who have early classes or live on early schedules.
- appleiigs 7y ago
  If the parking fees are too low, it’ll just turn into first-come-first-serve. If you have high fees, you’d be just transferring the scare resource to the rich. And the people who can’t afford it are forced to figure something less convenient out.
g82918 7y ago
Imagine a doctor working at two hospitals who has to move his car from one location to the other mid-day between surgeries. Is it more fair for him to have a worse parking spot and take longer to get to the operating room because he didn't park there earlier? Or should spots be given based on need?
- lostlogin 7y ago
  Repeat that but with a cleaner who is struggling to get by with 2 jobs while studying and is providing for kids. It seems much more likely given the location in this story too.
Scoundreller 7y ago
No, it leads to people with 10AM classes arriving before 9AM for the free parking, which just worsens the problem.
onei 7y ago
Not really. Let's imagine students live off campus and commute in each day. If they have lectures at the start of the day, then you'll get a space. But if you have one lecture at 3pm on a given day and don't elect to spend the entire day on campus then you're likely unable to get a parking space. First come, first served works fine if you all start at the same time but I found you're often at the mercy of timetabling.
superturkey650 7y ago
Wouldnt that unfairly weight parking spots to those with early classes? Not all classes have a variety of times available
cortesoft 7y ago
It is 'fair' in some senses and not others... it means if you are a student with later classes, you are less likely to get parking. It also means you can't plan effectively. If half the time, you show up to class and can't park anywhere, how can you make it to class on time consistently? If your answer is "well, maybe you should take public transportation instead of driving", how is that any better for students than charging for parking? If you charge for parking, you are at least giving students a choice and the ability to make an informed decision: "is it better to drive and pay $x to park, or save money and take public transportation?" If you have free parking that is often full, your choice is "take public transportation or have a x% chance of not being able to park and missing class"

Isn’t “first come first serve” fair?

klodolph 7y ago

It doesn’t seem fair to me, it seems like it favors people who have early classes or live on early schedules.

appleiigs 7y ago
If the parking fees are too low, it’ll just turn into first-come-first-serve. If you have high fees, you’d be just transferring the scare resource to the rich. And the people who can’t afford it are forced to figure something less convenient out.

g82918 7y ago

Imagine a doctor working at two hospitals who has to move his car from one location to the other mid-day between surgeries. Is it more fair for him to have a worse parking spot and take longer to get to the operating room because he didn't park there earlier? Or should spots be given based on need?

lostlogin 7y ago
Repeat that but with a cleaner who is struggling to get by with 2 jobs while studying and is providing for kids. It seems much more likely given the location in this story too.

Scoundreller 7y ago

No, it leads to people with 10AM classes arriving before 9AM for the free parking, which just worsens the problem.

onei 7y ago

Not really. Let's imagine students live off campus and commute in each day. If they have lectures at the start of the day, then you'll get a space. But if you have one lecture at 3pm on a given day and don't elect to spend the entire day on campus then you're likely unable to get a parking space. First come, first served works fine if you all start at the same time but I found you're often at the mercy of timetabling.

superturkey650 7y ago

Wouldnt that unfairly weight parking spots to those with early classes? Not all classes have a variety of times available

cortesoft 7y ago

It is 'fair' in some senses and not others... it means if you are a student with later classes, you are less likely to get parking. It also means you can't plan effectively. If half the time, you show up to class and can't park anywhere, how can you make it to class on time consistently? If your answer is "well, maybe you should take public transportation instead of driving", how is that any better for students than charging for parking? If you charge for parking, you are at least giving students a choice and the ability to make an informed decision: "is it better to drive and pay $x to park, or save money and take public transportation?" If you have free parking that is often full, your choice is "take public transportation or have a x% chance of not being able to park and missing class"