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“To work out how to prevent abuses”. I read this as: “to ensure only the EU and top government can have access to such data.” I believe their end goal is centr

“To work out how to prevent abuses”. I read this as: “to ensure only the EU and top government can have access to such data.” I believe their end goal is centralization of power. In this case, by ensuring control on who can access such information. And it won’t necessarily be by people appointed by those we voted for. Maybe it’s the same with GDPR. I’m not so sure any big government has the pure intention to simply “protect its citizens”.

gsich 7y ago
A private company does not need to do facial recognition ... in public areas. I see no legitimate usecase.
- lopmotr 7y ago
  "public spaces" may include shops and other private property open to the public. Shop owners may want to use it for marketing and blacklisting known shoplifters.
  - CaptainZapp 7y ago
    You're suggesting that shop owners use a Howitzer to shoot flies. Using such technology for this purpose is a massive overkill and prone to abuse. I already resent some of the tracking techniques used by shops today (i.e abusing my cell phone for their tracking). I hope that some enterprising citizens (I see organizations like the CCC) publish lists of shops employing such technology. Because I, for one, wil make damn sure that they don't get my business. Not! one! penny!
  - ginko 7y ago
    >Shop owners may want to use it for marketing Please no. I find it annoying enough that I can't click on random youtube links for fear of being bombarded with viral trash for the next few weeks. I really don't want to be bombarded by ads just because I looked into a window display for a bit too long.
  - shkkmo 7y ago
    By "shop owners may want to use it for marketing" you mean large companies that would love to build complete behavior profiles and then sell them? Edit: Even if this is somehow restricted to small ago owners I don't think they have the right to have my identity because I setup into their shop. I do think a reasonable exception could be carved out to allow monitoring for a specific list of individuals who have been banned from the premises.
  - pjc50 7y ago
    > Shop owners may want to use it for marketing That's the exact case most of us want it banned for.
  - gsich 7y ago
    Doesn't sound like a legitimate usecase. Sorry.

gsich 7y ago

A private company does not need to do facial recognition ... in public areas. I see no legitimate usecase.

lopmotr 7y ago
"public spaces" may include shops and other private property open to the public. Shop owners may want to use it for marketing and blacklisting known shoplifters.
- CaptainZapp 7y ago
  You're suggesting that shop owners use a Howitzer to shoot flies. Using such technology for this purpose is a massive overkill and prone to abuse. I already resent some of the tracking techniques used by shops today (i.e abusing my cell phone for their tracking). I hope that some enterprising citizens (I see organizations like the CCC) publish lists of shops employing such technology. Because I, for one, wil make damn sure that they don't get my business. Not! one! penny!
- ginko 7y ago
  >Shop owners may want to use it for marketing Please no. I find it annoying enough that I can't click on random youtube links for fear of being bombarded with viral trash for the next few weeks. I really don't want to be bombarded by ads just because I looked into a window display for a bit too long.
- shkkmo 7y ago
  By "shop owners may want to use it for marketing" you mean large companies that would love to build complete behavior profiles and then sell them? Edit: Even if this is somehow restricted to small ago owners I don't think they have the right to have my identity because I setup into their shop. I do think a reasonable exception could be carved out to allow monitoring for a specific list of individuals who have been banned from the premises.
- pjc50 7y ago
  > Shop owners may want to use it for marketing That's the exact case most of us want it banned for.
- gsich 7y ago
  Doesn't sound like a legitimate usecase. Sorry.