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I think the biggest dragon to slay would be the legendary GTK issue #233 which has been open for 15 years and has become sort of a meme by now. So many people t

by swebs 7y ago

I think the biggest dragon to slay would be the legendary GTK issue #233 which has been open for 15 years and has become sort of a meme by now. So many people try to solve it but fail since it requires intricate knowledge of the framework. https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gtk/issues/233 https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gtk/issues/233

hiccuphippo 7y ago
Didn't one of the other gtk derived DM replaced the file picker with their own which had thumbnail view? I thought Gnome never changed it because it didn't fit their vision.
Aeolun 7y ago
I dunno, but the GTK devs do not seem like a sympathetic bunch there. In fact it looks downright toxic. After reading an issue like that I would be very hard pressed to motivate myself to contribute anything.
- mmmrk 7y ago
  My impression is the opposite: random users demanding that some devs spend their time on a tricky corner issue and getting angry about it. After reading their comments, I'd be very hard pressed to motivate myself to work on it.
  - swebs 7y ago
    Well one person actually provided a solution, but then one of the maintainers just dismissed it because it was on Github, then locked the issue.
    - mmmrk 7y ago
      It seemed unclear that the patch addressed all the issues raised in the ticket, and looking at random patches still requires dev time. It is a different story when someone else actively works on getting it upstreamed and working on resolving any issues. It's about who volunteers to do the hard work. Given that no one stepped up to do it yet and random users chimed in with aggressive and/or unhelpful noise, locking the issue was adequate. I find it concerning how much abuse GNOME devs get, and I can completely understand that they respond like this.
      - Aeolun 7y ago
        Uh, as far as I can see, all the hard work is done, and has been merged into other forks. The Gnome devs just ideologically disagree. The whole ticket is a perfect example of “don’t let perfect be the enemy of good”.
AnIdiotOnTheNet 7y ago
There are a lot of open source projects with decade+ old bugs. Could be a community sport to tackle one ever month or something and accidentally improve the world as a side effect.

by swebs 7y ago

hiccuphippo 7y ago

Didn't one of the other gtk derived DM replaced the file picker with their own which had thumbnail view? I thought Gnome never changed it because it didn't fit their vision.

Aeolun 7y ago

I dunno, but the GTK devs do not seem like a sympathetic bunch there. In fact it looks downright toxic. After reading an issue like that I would be very hard pressed to motivate myself to contribute anything.

mmmrk 7y ago
My impression is the opposite: random users demanding that some devs spend their time on a tricky corner issue and getting angry about it. After reading their comments, I'd be very hard pressed to motivate myself to work on it.
- swebs 7y ago
  Well one person actually provided a solution, but then one of the maintainers just dismissed it because it was on Github, then locked the issue.
  - mmmrk 7y ago
    It seemed unclear that the patch addressed all the issues raised in the ticket, and looking at random patches still requires dev time. It is a different story when someone else actively works on getting it upstreamed and working on resolving any issues. It's about who volunteers to do the hard work. Given that no one stepped up to do it yet and random users chimed in with aggressive and/or unhelpful noise, locking the issue was adequate. I find it concerning how much abuse GNOME devs get, and I can completely understand that they respond like this.
    - Aeolun 7y ago
      Uh, as far as I can see, all the hard work is done, and has been merged into other forks. The Gnome devs just ideologically disagree. The whole ticket is a perfect example of “don’t let perfect be the enemy of good”.

AnIdiotOnTheNet 7y ago

There are a lot of open source projects with decade+ old bugs. Could be a community sport to tackle one ever month or something and accidentally improve the world as a side effect.