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Previous discussion: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22022010 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22022010 Copying my comments from there: --- > In war

Previous discussion: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22022010 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22022010 Copying my comments from there: --- > In warning the site not to disclose the brochure, SSG’s attorney reportedly claimed the document is protected under the International Traffic in Arms Regulations (ITAR), though the notice did not point to any specific section of the law, which was enacted to regulate arms exports at the height of the Cold War. We really need an overhaul of all these old laws that were enacted for a completely different era, which are now being misused. Another example is 200 year old laws being used to get companies to break encryption. --- I don't know how I feel about hidden surveillance cameras in public. I know I shouldn't have any expectation of privacy in public and all that, but CCTV cameras in plain view are a different matter. Are we going to live in a world where we're constantly being recorded and analysed by hidden cameras? This makes me very uneasy. Whatever happened to the idea that democratic governments should be for the people? I'm sure there's no way that this can ever possibly be misused /s. If agencies are using these for surveillance on specific targets then that's maybe okay, but as far as I'm aware, there is not much regulation regarding hidden cameras in public - at least, not in many parts of the world.

swebs 7y ago
>Whatever happened to the idea that democratic governments should be for the people? Unfortunately, that idea is smeared as "populism" these days and considered wrongthink.
raxxorrax 7y ago
I don't like CCTV in a hidden or a visible manner. It doesn't make me feel save at all, on the contrary. I have been a target of vandalism multiple times and a cam might have helped in solving a type of crime that otherwise would very likely remain unsolved. But it is just not worth it and it is not even close. If a camera would film my immediate vicinity where I live, I wouldn't certainly extend that vandalism to state property. Public transport increasingly uses CCTV as do some chains of supermarkets. Otherwise it is not yet established in my country yet but I already avoid both. And bashing a window is still nothing compared to crimes some security agencies or police forces have comitted.
Nasrudith 7y ago
They are nothinh but flaming corrupt hypocrites. They operate in the business of surveilance yet have the gall to complain about their non-existant right to privacy as an organization? The fact they aren't even citing the subsections hints at specious legal intimidation. The complexity is too high, lawyers are too expensive, and abuses of the law go too unpunished.

swebs 7y ago

>Whatever happened to the idea that democratic governments should be for the people? Unfortunately, that idea is smeared as "populism" these days and considered wrongthink.

raxxorrax 7y ago

I don't like CCTV in a hidden or a visible manner. It doesn't make me feel save at all, on the contrary. I have been a target of vandalism multiple times and a cam might have helped in solving a type of crime that otherwise would very likely remain unsolved. But it is just not worth it and it is not even close. If a camera would film my immediate vicinity where I live, I wouldn't certainly extend that vandalism to state property. Public transport increasingly uses CCTV as do some chains of supermarkets. Otherwise it is not yet established in my country yet but I already avoid both. And bashing a window is still nothing compared to crimes some security agencies or police forces have comitted.

Nasrudith 7y ago

They are nothinh but flaming corrupt hypocrites. They operate in the business of surveilance yet have the gall to complain about their non-existant right to privacy as an organization? The fact they aren't even citing the subsections hints at specious legal intimidation. The complexity is too high, lawyers are too expensive, and abuses of the law go too unpunished.