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This is a classic, but I think it applies here: https://web.archive.org/web/20200108125657/https://www.jwz.org/doc/worse-is-better.html https://web.archive.org/

This is a classic, but I think it applies here: https://web.archive.org/web/20200108125657/https://www.jwz.org/doc/worse-is-better.html https://web.archive.org/web/20200108125657/https://www.jwz.o... Edit, I've been informed that the direct link has a NSFW redirect, so using archive.org instead

Avery3R 7y ago
Watch out, this gives a NSFW redirect
- takeda 7y ago
  Is owner of the server playing some tricks, when I tried that URL on Firefox Focus on my phone, it is just the text and I believe what parent wanted to submit, but indeed it looks fishy, I got 403 when tried to see what the redirect was using curl. What did showed for you?
  - sirsar 7y ago
    jwz isn't a fan of this site. Last I checked, if the referer was news.ycombinator.com, it redirected to a testicle in an egg cup.
    - gield 7y ago
      For anyone who is as curious as me and wants to test it: https://www.jwz.org/doc/worse-is-better.html https://www.jwz.org/doc/worse-is-better.html
      - spondyl 7y ago
        Once you go to the link directly, it appears to work fine coming from HN? It seems to work consistently if you visit (from this thread) in a new tab
        rrix2 7y ago
        jwz's entire site checks your Referer header and does this if it comes from HN.
      - bscphil 7y ago
        This is one reason I love having changed network.http.referer.XOriginPolicy[1] in Firefox. I never send the referer to third party domains, and I've only ever seen one or two sites broken because of this. It's a vast improvement for privacy as well. [1] https://wiki.mozilla.org/Security/Referrer https://wiki.mozilla.org/Security/Referrer
    - DonHopkins 7y ago
      Some people, when confronted with a problem, think "I know, I'll use a testicle in an egg cup." Now they have two problems.
- scruple 7y ago
  Copy paste it, don't click a jwz link from HN.
djmips 7y ago
I've read that before but on this re-reading it really hit me that he was describing 'go fast and break things' more or less with the so called New Jersey approach. "It is better to get half of the right thing available so that it spreads like a virus. Once people are hooked on it, take the time to improve it to 90% of the right thing." This is like Facebook.

Avery3R 7y ago

Watch out, this gives a NSFW redirect

takeda 7y ago
Is owner of the server playing some tricks, when I tried that URL on Firefox Focus on my phone, it is just the text and I believe what parent wanted to submit, but indeed it looks fishy, I got 403 when tried to see what the redirect was using curl. What did showed for you?
- sirsar 7y ago
  jwz isn't a fan of this site. Last I checked, if the referer was news.ycombinator.com, it redirected to a testicle in an egg cup.
  - gield 7y ago
    For anyone who is as curious as me and wants to test it: https://www.jwz.org/doc/worse-is-better.html https://www.jwz.org/doc/worse-is-better.html
    - spondyl 7y ago
      Once you go to the link directly, it appears to work fine coming from HN? It seems to work consistently if you visit (from this thread) in a new tab
      - rrix2 7y ago
        jwz's entire site checks your Referer header and does this if it comes from HN.
    - bscphil 7y ago
      This is one reason I love having changed network.http.referer.XOriginPolicy[1] in Firefox. I never send the referer to third party domains, and I've only ever seen one or two sites broken because of this. It's a vast improvement for privacy as well. [1] https://wiki.mozilla.org/Security/Referrer https://wiki.mozilla.org/Security/Referrer
  - DonHopkins 7y ago
    Some people, when confronted with a problem, think "I know, I'll use a testicle in an egg cup." Now they have two problems.
scruple 7y ago
Copy paste it, don't click a jwz link from HN.

djmips 7y ago

I've read that before but on this re-reading it really hit me that he was describing 'go fast and break things' more or less with the so called New Jersey approach. "It is better to get half of the right thing available so that it spreads like a virus. Once people are hooked on it, take the time to improve it to 90% of the right thing." This is like Facebook.