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The same thing would happen in the USA too. If you were suspected of hacking into the Democrat or Republican party websites, the FBI would come and confiscate y

The same thing would happen in the USA too. If you were suspected of hacking into the Democrat or Republican party websites, the FBI would come and confiscate your computers and hold onto them until after your trial had finished. This would easily take a year or longer.

jtbayly 7y ago
Hopefully not trial. Hopefully it would happen the same here as it did there—no charges and computer equipment returned.
tomjakubowski 7y ago
It's the Democratic Party, not the Democrat Party.
- mr_overalls 7y ago
  Saying "Democrat" instead of "Democratic" has, strangely, morphed into a sort of secret-handshake for Republicans. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democrat_Party_(epithet) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democrat_Party_(epithet)
  - TallGuyShort 7y ago
    An easier-to-pronounce corruption of the name spoken with disdain is hardly a "secret handshake"
    - caconym_ 7y ago
      More like a dog whistle.
  - abstractbarista 7y ago
    You learn something new every day! I'm going to start using this. Not because I care (unaffiliated), but because I'm astounded that anyone could be seriously offended by this.
    - jhayward 7y ago
      That's what jerks do. "To own the libs". I recommend not being a jerk.
    - justincredible 7y ago
      Should be the "Pedantic Party".
    - Hnrobert42 7y ago
      I don’t know if anyone gets offended anymore so than they would to a “your mom” joke. Saying it is mostly just funny to one group while being annoying and juvenile to another. Generally speaking, I avoid name-calling and ad hominem attacks no matter how good they feel. Folks are doing enough trolling. We need more civility.
- benjohnson 7y ago
  I'm confused - the Democrats/Democratic party uses "Democrat" extensively in their website. It it a noun vs adjective thing that I'm missing? https://democrats.org/ https://democrats.org/
  - mikeyouse 7y ago
    > It it a noun vs adjective thing that I'm missing? Yes, you'll notice they never use the singular "Democrat". They describe democrats, the Democratic party, etc. but only Republicans started using this bizarre "Democrat Party" or the "Democrat nominee" thing.
    - sneakernets 7y ago
      It's a play on the last syllable resembling "rat", popularized by Rush Limbaugh's radio show. I do remember hearing "Republican'ts" and "rethuglicans" from dems but in my experience it's extremely rare.
      - burfog 7y ago
        I doubt anybody uses "democrat party" for reasons related to the demon-rat moniker. It seems to be more about disputing that the party is in fact democratic. Among other things, the superdelegates make this clear. It's also the matter of the party making a name-grab for democracy itself, which is a more valuable trademark than anything associated with the republic.
        mikeyouse 7y ago
        > It seems to be more about disputing that the party is in fact democratic. Among other things, the superdelegates make this clear. It's also the matter of the party making a name-grab for democracy itself, which is a more valuable trademark than anything associated with the republic. Yes, I'm sure the pejorative use by Republicans of the term that Democrats use to refer to themselves is rooted in Republicans' sincere concern with the structure of the DNC's primary. That must be it. > burfog 19 hours ago | parent | flag | favorite | on: Iran attack: US airbases in Iraq hit by ballistic ... > Democrat voters may oppose war, but the same can not be said for democrat politicians. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21987859 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21987859 Lol, come on man.
TallGuyShort 7y ago
And it's not remotely unheard-of for the FBI to execute that in the form of an escalated no-knock raid. Paul Manafort is one example that immediately comes to mind, and his was in the middle of the night IIRC.
- DoofusOfDeath 7y ago
  I have a mischievous fantasy for situations where police use illegally excessive force for no-knock warrants. It involves some combination of: - A highly reinforced front door, and bulletproof windows. - Just inside the front door, a floor that's in the middle of being mopped with very slippery soap. - Copious amounts of glitter and shaving cream. (I'm still working out the details.) Note: I recognize that most police perform dangerous and necessary work. My fantasy only applies to police committing criminal acts.
  - orhmeh09 7y ago
    I could picture this being used to tack on several more charges... Note: policing isn’t that dangerous, and the way it used in practice in the US, it’s only necessary for enforcing property law and protecting people who own/run things. https://www.huffpost.com/entry/how-dangerous-is-police-w_b_6373798 https://www.huffpost.com/entry/how-dangerous-is-police-w_b_6...
    - DoofusOfDeath 7y ago
      > I could picture this being used to tack on several more charges... For sure. There are lots of reason to keep this in the realm of "mischievous fantasy".
  - ryanmarsh 7y ago
    Everyday household tripping hazards will do.
  - burfog 7y ago
    Maybe the inhabitant only weighs 80 pounds, and that is all the floor is capable of supporting. The basement holds a large collection of glass containers holding venomous animals.
calcifer 7y ago
Would it happen the same way though, with a polite knock on the door, a calm chat and orderly evidence collection? In the US they'd probably break the door, pin the guy down on the floor while armed men ransack the house. Call me cynical...
- earlINmeyerkeg 7y ago
  And also throw you in jail and keep you there indefinitely regardless of evidence of you committing a crime.
  - jacobwilliamroy 7y ago
    It's true, the jails are so clogged that pre-trial offenders can be held for months and sometimes years without a conviction in the U.S. Not to mention the indeterminate number of people who just disappear out of the computer system and end up being held for months beyond their release date.
    - pmoriarty 7y ago
      What's worse, you could be thrown in jail if you're a witness, even if you're not even suspected of a crime. Some witnesses have been in jail for years. http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-39662428 http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-39662428
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pbreit 7y ago
What do you think would have happened if you stumbled upon [political party website] open directory and reported it?

jtbayly 7y ago

Hopefully not trial. Hopefully it would happen the same here as it did there—no charges and computer equipment returned.

tomjakubowski 7y ago

It's the Democratic Party, not the Democrat Party.

mr_overalls 7y ago
Saying "Democrat" instead of "Democratic" has, strangely, morphed into a sort of secret-handshake for Republicans. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democrat_Party_(epithet) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democrat_Party_(epithet)
- TallGuyShort 7y ago
  An easier-to-pronounce corruption of the name spoken with disdain is hardly a "secret handshake"
  - caconym_ 7y ago
    More like a dog whistle.
- abstractbarista 7y ago
  You learn something new every day! I'm going to start using this. Not because I care (unaffiliated), but because I'm astounded that anyone could be seriously offended by this.
  - jhayward 7y ago
    That's what jerks do. "To own the libs". I recommend not being a jerk.
  - justincredible 7y ago
    Should be the "Pedantic Party".
  - Hnrobert42 7y ago
    I don’t know if anyone gets offended anymore so than they would to a “your mom” joke. Saying it is mostly just funny to one group while being annoying and juvenile to another. Generally speaking, I avoid name-calling and ad hominem attacks no matter how good they feel. Folks are doing enough trolling. We need more civility.
benjohnson 7y ago
I'm confused - the Democrats/Democratic party uses "Democrat" extensively in their website. It it a noun vs adjective thing that I'm missing? https://democrats.org/ https://democrats.org/
- mikeyouse 7y ago
  > It it a noun vs adjective thing that I'm missing? Yes, you'll notice they never use the singular "Democrat". They describe democrats, the Democratic party, etc. but only Republicans started using this bizarre "Democrat Party" or the "Democrat nominee" thing.
  - sneakernets 7y ago
    It's a play on the last syllable resembling "rat", popularized by Rush Limbaugh's radio show. I do remember hearing "Republican'ts" and "rethuglicans" from dems but in my experience it's extremely rare.
    - burfog 7y ago
      I doubt anybody uses "democrat party" for reasons related to the demon-rat moniker. It seems to be more about disputing that the party is in fact democratic. Among other things, the superdelegates make this clear. It's also the matter of the party making a name-grab for democracy itself, which is a more valuable trademark than anything associated with the republic.
      - mikeyouse 7y ago
        > It seems to be more about disputing that the party is in fact democratic. Among other things, the superdelegates make this clear. It's also the matter of the party making a name-grab for democracy itself, which is a more valuable trademark than anything associated with the republic. Yes, I'm sure the pejorative use by Republicans of the term that Democrats use to refer to themselves is rooted in Republicans' sincere concern with the structure of the DNC's primary. That must be it. > burfog 19 hours ago | parent | flag | favorite | on: Iran attack: US airbases in Iraq hit by ballistic ... > Democrat voters may oppose war, but the same can not be said for democrat politicians. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21987859 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21987859 Lol, come on man.

TallGuyShort 7y ago

And it's not remotely unheard-of for the FBI to execute that in the form of an escalated no-knock raid. Paul Manafort is one example that immediately comes to mind, and his was in the middle of the night IIRC.

DoofusOfDeath 7y ago
I have a mischievous fantasy for situations where police use illegally excessive force for no-knock warrants. It involves some combination of: - A highly reinforced front door, and bulletproof windows. - Just inside the front door, a floor that's in the middle of being mopped with very slippery soap. - Copious amounts of glitter and shaving cream. (I'm still working out the details.) Note: I recognize that most police perform dangerous and necessary work. My fantasy only applies to police committing criminal acts.
- orhmeh09 7y ago
  I could picture this being used to tack on several more charges... Note: policing isn’t that dangerous, and the way it used in practice in the US, it’s only necessary for enforcing property law and protecting people who own/run things. https://www.huffpost.com/entry/how-dangerous-is-police-w_b_6373798 https://www.huffpost.com/entry/how-dangerous-is-police-w_b_6...
  - DoofusOfDeath 7y ago
    > I could picture this being used to tack on several more charges... For sure. There are lots of reason to keep this in the realm of "mischievous fantasy".
- ryanmarsh 7y ago
  Everyday household tripping hazards will do.
- burfog 7y ago
  Maybe the inhabitant only weighs 80 pounds, and that is all the floor is capable of supporting. The basement holds a large collection of glass containers holding venomous animals.

calcifer 7y ago

Would it happen the same way though, with a polite knock on the door, a calm chat and orderly evidence collection? In the US they'd probably break the door, pin the guy down on the floor while armed men ransack the house. Call me cynical...

earlINmeyerkeg 7y ago
And also throw you in jail and keep you there indefinitely regardless of evidence of you committing a crime.
- jacobwilliamroy 7y ago
  It's true, the jails are so clogged that pre-trial offenders can be held for months and sometimes years without a conviction in the U.S. Not to mention the indeterminate number of people who just disappear out of the computer system and end up being held for months beyond their release date.
  - pmoriarty 7y ago
    What's worse, you could be thrown in jail if you're a witness, even if you're not even suspected of a crime. Some witnesses have been in jail for years. http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-39662428 http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-39662428
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pbreit 7y ago

What do you think would have happened if you stumbled upon [political party website] open directory and reported it?