4 ms·

Could you stop mingling "flu like symptoms" with "serious ongoing consequences"? Every single Flu-vaccine has a high probability of showing flu-like symptoms.

by bipson 7y ago

Could you stop mingling "flu like symptoms" with "serious ongoing consequences"? Every single Flu-vaccine has a high probability of showing flu-like symptoms. These are from a medicinal standpoint nothing compared to the seriousness of the real flu. Even MMR-Vaccines are expected to cause a harmless form of "vaccine-measles", which can show up as mild rash, low fever, etc. Again, no these are not to be concerned about. These vaccination-associated symptoms are widely harmless and there is no reason to mingle them with ongoing side-effects caused by vaccinations.

pbhjpbhj 7y ago
For sure, confusion was not intended. People act as if vaccination is perfect and has no risks and that people who try and consider the risks are thus stupid. >"These vaccination-associated symptoms are widely harmless" So, mild symptoms are mild, got you. But you accept that there are people getting life altering illnesses from vaccinations? Eg https://www.cdc.gov/flu/prevent/guillainbarre.htm https://www.cdc.gov/flu/prevent/guillainbarre.htm says about 1-2 per million vaccinations.
- bipson 7y ago
  Why did you leave out this (essential) information that associates your cherry-picked statement?: (emphasis mine) >The data on the association between GBS and seasonal flu vaccination are variable and inconsistent across flu seasons. If there is an increased risk of GBS following flu vaccination it is small, on the order of one to two additional GBS cases per million doses of flu vaccine administered. They clearly never state your conclusion, they said 'If there is such an increased risk, it is incredibly small'. Now the question is, why would you do that?
  - pbhjpbhj 7y ago
    This is a brief conversation on a mobile phone, I clearly sourced my backing for that statement. Answer this - does vaccination have any major health risks?

by bipson 7y ago

pbhjpbhj 7y ago

For sure, confusion was not intended. People act as if vaccination is perfect and has no risks and that people who try and consider the risks are thus stupid. >"These vaccination-associated symptoms are widely harmless" So, mild symptoms are mild, got you. But you accept that there are people getting life altering illnesses from vaccinations? Eg https://www.cdc.gov/flu/prevent/guillainbarre.htm https://www.cdc.gov/flu/prevent/guillainbarre.htm says about 1-2 per million vaccinations.

bipson 7y ago
Why did you leave out this (essential) information that associates your cherry-picked statement?: (emphasis mine) >The data on the association between GBS and seasonal flu vaccination are variable and inconsistent across flu seasons. If there is an increased risk of GBS following flu vaccination it is small, on the order of one to two additional GBS cases per million doses of flu vaccine administered. They clearly never state your conclusion, they said 'If there is such an increased risk, it is incredibly small'. Now the question is, why would you do that?
- pbhjpbhj 7y ago
  This is a brief conversation on a mobile phone, I clearly sourced my backing for that statement. Answer this - does vaccination have any major health risks?