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A three year old Boeing 737-800, which does not have any known safety issues. It feels deeply implausible that this airplane would simply crash due to mechanica

• tempsy 7y ago
  It’s already been reported that it was accidentally shot down.
  • maest 7y ago
    Do you have a source?
  • deleted 7y ago
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• daenz 7y ago
  It could also be bad actors trying to stir the pot.
• sschueller 7y ago
  "A three year old Boeing 737-800, which does not have any known safety issues." That is what we heard after the first 737-Max crash as well. Then came another one and the same line was spewed all over.
  • 0x8BADF00D 7y ago
    Exactly, it’s the safest passenger plane model until it isn’t.
    • 0x8BADF00D 7y ago
      Can’t edit this anymore but just want to update the record that I was wrong. I was being charitable but it was indeed downed by the Iranian government.
  • aaronbrethorst 7y ago
    This model has been around since 1998. You have undoubtedly flown on a 737-800 many, many times. They are incredibly safe airplanes. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_accidents_and_incidents_involving_the_Boeing_737#737_Next_Generation_(-600/-700/-800/-900)_aircraft https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_accidents_and_incident...
    • frogger23124 7y ago
      Yes. The 737-800 is a Boeing from a different era. Proper engineering.
      • sschueller 7y ago
        But it was built 3 years ago. Does proper engineering prevent future failures if the assembly process becomes flawed at a later time? For example using cheaper materials, ignoring cracks, not properly training new employees etc.
        • mulmen 7y ago
          What does this kind of baseless speculation accomplish?
          • Razengan 7y ago
            What is accomplished by downvoting and attacking people for asking questions instead of answering them?
            • quickthrower2 7y ago
              “Just asking questions”
        • JumpCrisscross 7y ago
          > Does proper engineering prevent future failures No. Never. The plane could have had a defect. The parts could have had a defect. Maintenance could have caused damage. Or, the machine was perfect. It just hit the wrong number of birds at the wrong angle. Or experienced one of countless random errors that can take down a good plane. (It could also be malice.)
• mikejb 7y ago
  What I learned is that the stellar decades-long safety record of an airplane can be ruined by a single fuck-up during service - even when servicing another airplane [1]. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_France_Flight_4590 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_France_Flight_4590
• dmos62 7y ago
  Since this thread is mostly speculation, might as well go all in: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tectonic_weapon https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tectonic_weapon
• cm2187 7y ago
  It’s going to be hard to remove the suspicion. The investigation will probably be run by an Iranian authority. I doubt the NTSB will be invited in the current climate. How credible will be its finding? Usually in this case a neutral third party is invited (like France’s BEA). But pretty much all western countries are being threaten by Iran now.
  • mikejb 7y ago
    > But pretty much all western countries are being threaten by Iran now. Are they? If I remember correctly, Iran threatened the US / Trump specifically (more so since Trump threatened to attack cultural sites). Were there any threats to other western countries?
    • cm2187 7y ago
      The UK seems to think so: https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/news/british-strike-on-iran-cant-be-ruled-out-mps-warned-sqnc2klfb https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/news/british-strike-on-ir...
      • iso1210 7y ago
        The UK is desparate for a 'trade deal' with america having voted to completely cut ties with the EU.
  • piva00 7y ago
    I didn't see threats coming from Iran towards the West apart from the ones against the US (and veiled threats to US allies to not join them), care to share sources for threats against other Western countries?
  • NeedMoreTea 7y ago
    Most of Europe aside from the UK, desperate for a UK-comes-off-worst trade deal, appear to have distanced themselves. Could envisage one of those being able to perform an investigation.
• numpad0 7y ago
  "Does not have any known safety issues" sounds like bit of a stretch, every airplane models has few safety issues at least. Issues range from faulty windshield wiper motors(I just checked and there is such one for 738), to "may spontaneously explode and kill everyone in and out". The problem is whether the prevalence and/or severity of issues are under control or not.
• dgudkov 7y ago
  >A three year old Boeing 737-800, which does not have any known safety issues. Also, just two days after the latest maintenance check (Jan 6th 2020).
  • thinkingemote 7y ago
    I wonder how often maintenance checks are?
• p_l 7y ago
  737-800 have reported problems with engines disintegrating in flight, with two accidents, one of them in 2018 leaving 1 passenger dead and 8 injured. The CFM56 engines used appeared to have issues with detaching compressor blades.
• kamaal 7y ago
  >>but then again there was also an earthquake in Iran just a few hours ago Noob question, what are the odds they were testing a nuclear weapon, and how would a foreign agency go about finding if they indeed did a test?
  • mikejb 7y ago
    Nuclear weapon detonations (particularly when tested underground, which is done mostly to avoid atmospheric contamination) can be identified through seismic arrays. The system is pretty reliable, and beyond the obvious task of distinguishing between natural and human causes, it is even capable of detecting the approximate origin. I remember reading an article about how even civilian arrays were capable of identifying tests in North Korea, and distinguishing between detonations, and the following cavity collapses.