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Well, I hope this works out for AMD - currently they apparently can't compete for power efficiency.. At least judging by one of the more interesting reviews fro

by e12e 7y ago

Well, I hope this works out for AMD - currently they apparently can't compete for power efficiency.. At least judging by one of the more interesting reviews from 2019: "The Microsoft Surface Laptop 3 Showdown: AMD's Ryzen Picasso vs. Intel's Ice Lake" https://www.anandtech.com/show/15213/the-microsoft-surface-laptop-3-showdown-amd-picasso-vs-intel-ice-lake https://www.anandtech.com/show/15213/the-microsoft-surface-l... Ed: looks like we'll see more intel/amd head-to-head designs, eg: https://www.anandtech.com/show/15305/acer-swift-3-either-with-core-i71065g7-or-ryzen-7-4700u-the-laptop-market-just-blew-wide-open https://www.anandtech.com/show/15305/acer-swift-3-either-wit...

basilgohar 7y ago
Not that I want to apologize for poor performance, but I remember feeling let down by that review because some obvious differences between the platforms were not highlighted that should feed into the conclusions, not the least of which was the drastically different memory used between the two platforms. The article was billed as "let's see the difference between AMD and Intel" but there were significant platform differences that made it not quite apples-to-apples.
- mtgx 7y ago
  Well the platform differences would be that AMD continues to put last gen tech in Mobile , including last gen process node, while Intel prioritizes mobile (also because they can't prioritize desktop due to their process issues)
trynumber9 7y ago
Picasso is a nearly two year old design on 12nm being compared to Intel's latest Sunny Cove design on their (profusely) bleeding-edge process. It was a valid comparison, as that what Microsoft was selling. But I expect a better showing with process parity.
neogodless 7y ago
The article on The Verge quoted AMD as doubling the power efficiency from Zen+ (with 7nm Zen 2). Very interested to see real world battery life before making any judgements.

by e12e 7y ago

basilgohar 7y ago

Not that I want to apologize for poor performance, but I remember feeling let down by that review because some obvious differences between the platforms were not highlighted that should feed into the conclusions, not the least of which was the drastically different memory used between the two platforms. The article was billed as "let's see the difference between AMD and Intel" but there were significant platform differences that made it not quite apples-to-apples.

mtgx 7y ago
Well the platform differences would be that AMD continues to put last gen tech in Mobile , including last gen process node, while Intel prioritizes mobile (also because they can't prioritize desktop due to their process issues)

trynumber9 7y ago

Picasso is a nearly two year old design on 12nm being compared to Intel's latest Sunny Cove design on their (profusely) bleeding-edge process. It was a valid comparison, as that what Microsoft was selling. But I expect a better showing with process parity.

neogodless 7y ago

The article on The Verge quoted AMD as doubling the power efficiency from Zen+ (with 7nm Zen 2). Very interested to see real world battery life before making any judgements.