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Because they're not natural foods. And natural here does not mean not artificial. Natural food is the food we've been designed to eat.

saagarjha 7y ago
I can't see us being designed to eat heavily selected for plants, either.
thenewwazoo 7y ago
Designed by whom?
dragonwriter 7y ago
> Natural food is the food we've been designed to eat. Humans aren't designed.
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- batuhanicoz 7y ago
  We are though, at least in a way. Isn't evolution a really slow design process?
  - dragonwriter 7y ago
    > Isn't evolution a really slow design process? Not really, at least not in any directed way. To the extent that you might say that evolution designed us to do, including eat, anything, it is only exactly whatever we do do.
  - tootie 7y ago
    Humans evolved the ability to make soy-based meat substitutes. Hence, it's nature at work.
sdnlafkjh34rw 7y ago
You should stop eating all modern fruits. Literally all modern fruits have been designed by humans through genetic selection. Here is how a banana is naturally supposed to look: https://www.sciencealert.com/images/feb-16/processed/Banana1_web_1024.png https://www.sciencealert.com/images/feb-16/processed/Banana1... Also if you are going to say that humans are designed and ignore Darwin's theory of evolution, you are going to lose you credibility on your thoughts on science.
- Gatsky 7y ago
  This is a bad example, because ignoring what we have been 'designed' to eat, fruit is certainly designed to be eaten, which is even better. Just think about it: you can pick it, and leave it lying around for weeks and it is still fine. There are almost zero fruit-borne illnesses. When it is spoiled, it is obvious by looking at it or smelling it. I mean, this is something that has evolved to be eaten by large mammals. I don't think this is substantially changed by modern farming.
  - kristofferR 7y ago
    I don't understand your argument at all - you are saying that foods that are designed to be eaten are inherently better? Sugar is sugar. It doesn't matter if the sugar has been added through selective breeding or just added afterwards. The only reasons fruits are a little bit healthier than soda with the same sugar/micronutrient content is the fibers in the fruit that makes it harder to consume too much of it.
    - Gatsky 7y ago
      The original comment was arguing that modern fruit is not 'natural' due to farming practices. My argument is that this isn't the example to choose, because of all things, fruit is among the best things to eat. There is plenty of evidence that fruit consumption is good for you[1], which will obviously not be reproduced by drinking the equivalent flavoured soda. "A little bit healthier"? This is a joke? [1] https://www.who.int/dietphysicalactivity/fruit/en/index2.html https://www.who.int/dietphysicalactivity/fruit/en/index2.htm...
MiroF 7y ago
Cows are a recent invention - we should go back to the natural days of hunting and gathering for food

saagarjha 7y ago

I can't see us being designed to eat heavily selected for plants, either.

thenewwazoo 7y ago

dragonwriter 7y ago

> Natural food is the food we've been designed to eat. Humans aren't designed.

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batuhanicoz 7y ago
We are though, at least in a way. Isn't evolution a really slow design process?
- dragonwriter 7y ago
  > Isn't evolution a really slow design process? Not really, at least not in any directed way. To the extent that you might say that evolution designed us to do, including eat, anything, it is only exactly whatever we do do.
- tootie 7y ago
  Humans evolved the ability to make soy-based meat substitutes. Hence, it's nature at work.

sdnlafkjh34rw 7y ago

You should stop eating all modern fruits. Literally all modern fruits have been designed by humans through genetic selection. Here is how a banana is naturally supposed to look: https://www.sciencealert.com/images/feb-16/processed/Banana1_web_1024.png https://www.sciencealert.com/images/feb-16/processed/Banana1... Also if you are going to say that humans are designed and ignore Darwin's theory of evolution, you are going to lose you credibility on your thoughts on science.

Gatsky 7y ago
This is a bad example, because ignoring what we have been 'designed' to eat, fruit is certainly designed to be eaten, which is even better. Just think about it: you can pick it, and leave it lying around for weeks and it is still fine. There are almost zero fruit-borne illnesses. When it is spoiled, it is obvious by looking at it or smelling it. I mean, this is something that has evolved to be eaten by large mammals. I don't think this is substantially changed by modern farming.
- kristofferR 7y ago
  I don't understand your argument at all - you are saying that foods that are designed to be eaten are inherently better? Sugar is sugar. It doesn't matter if the sugar has been added through selective breeding or just added afterwards. The only reasons fruits are a little bit healthier than soda with the same sugar/micronutrient content is the fibers in the fruit that makes it harder to consume too much of it.
  - Gatsky 7y ago
    The original comment was arguing that modern fruit is not 'natural' due to farming practices. My argument is that this isn't the example to choose, because of all things, fruit is among the best things to eat. There is plenty of evidence that fruit consumption is good for you[1], which will obviously not be reproduced by drinking the equivalent flavoured soda. "A little bit healthier"? This is a joke? [1] https://www.who.int/dietphysicalactivity/fruit/en/index2.html https://www.who.int/dietphysicalactivity/fruit/en/index2.htm...

MiroF 7y ago

Cows are a recent invention - we should go back to the natural days of hunting and gathering for food