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I agree with your annoyance at these types of threads. The contrast in this chain is the animated discussion between the originator and various scientists inclu

I agree with your annoyance at these types of threads. The contrast in this chain is the animated discussion between the originator and various scientists including neuroscientists, primatologists, etc.

dekhn 7y ago
Maybe I'm not seeing the responses properly but it looks like nobody on the thread is an expert scientist. Within several tweets, the main claim of the OP was more or less put into strong doubt.
- vo2maxer 7y ago
  Some of those involved in the discussion: Brad Wyble [1, 2] [1] https://psych.la.psu.edu/directory/bpw10 https://psych.la.psu.edu/directory/bpw10 [2] http://wyblelab.com/ http://wyblelab.com/ Sharon Rodobre OBE [3, 4] [3] https://lafeber.com/vet/redrobe/ https://lafeber.com/vet/redrobe/ [4] https://blooloop.com/features/twycross-zoo-sharon-redrobe-one-world/ https://blooloop.com/features/twycross-zoo-sharon-redrobe-on... Claudio Tennie [5, 6, 7] [5] https://sites.google.com/view/claudiotennie/cv https://sites.google.com/view/claudiotennie/cv [6] https://sites.google.com/view/claudiotennie https://sites.google.com/view/claudiotennie [7] https://uni-tuebingen.de/fakultaeten/mathematisch-naturwissenschaftliche-fakultaet/fachbereiche/geowissenschaften/arbeitsgruppen/urgeschichte-naturwissenschaftliche-archaeologie/forschungsbereich/aeltere-urgeschichte-quartaeroekologie/mitarbeiter/akademische-mitarbeiterinnen-und-mitarbeiter/dr-claudio-tennie/ https://uni-tuebingen.de/fakultaeten/mathematisch-naturwisse... Tom Roth [8] [8] https://www.universiteitleiden.nl/en/staffmembers/1/tom-roth https://www.universiteitleiden.nl/en/staffmembers/1/tom-roth Patrick A. Jansen [9] [9] https://www.wur.nl/en/Persons/Patrickdr.ir.-PA-Patrick-Jansen.htm https://www.wur.nl/en/Persons/Patrickdr.ir.-PA-Patrick-Janse...
  - dekhn 7y ago
    checked out all your links; really not seeing how an animal vet qualifies. The people I agree with are the ones on this list who are disagreeing with the original poster, and have the greatest qualifications in the area of interest (wyble and tennie).
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    - vo2maxer 7y ago
      I took your statement, “it looks like nobody on the thread is an expert scientist,” literally. It could be that I’m confused by what you mean with “expert scientist.” You qualified two from the list but questioned Sharon Redobre’s (I misspelled her name in my comment) inclusion as merely being a veterinarian. When I read her curriculum vitae [1], I can’t help but conclude that she is both, an expert in her field, primates and exotic animals, and a scientist based on the definitions I consulted [2, 3, 4]. I will not discuss the others you excluded; it would be tedious and belaboring the point. Finally, I agree with those who refuted the original poster despite his answers to their counterpoint. Someone posted a claim that was argued with civility over the chain of comments, not unlike what happens in HN. How such a discussion is tiresome, I leave to individual preference. :-) [1] https://uk.linkedin.com/in/sharon-redrobe-obe-11139912 https://uk.linkedin.com/in/sharon-redrobe-obe-11139912 [2] https://www.collinsdictionary.com/us/dictionary/english/scientist https://www.collinsdictionary.com/us/dictionary/english/scie... [3] https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/scientist https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/scientist [4] https://sciencecouncil.org/about-science/10-types-of-scientist/ https://sciencecouncil.org/about-science/10-types-of-scienti...

dekhn 7y ago

Maybe I'm not seeing the responses properly but it looks like nobody on the thread is an expert scientist. Within several tweets, the main claim of the OP was more or less put into strong doubt.

vo2maxer 7y ago
Some of those involved in the discussion: Brad Wyble [1, 2] [1] https://psych.la.psu.edu/directory/bpw10 https://psych.la.psu.edu/directory/bpw10 [2] http://wyblelab.com/ http://wyblelab.com/ Sharon Rodobre OBE [3, 4] [3] https://lafeber.com/vet/redrobe/ https://lafeber.com/vet/redrobe/ [4] https://blooloop.com/features/twycross-zoo-sharon-redrobe-one-world/ https://blooloop.com/features/twycross-zoo-sharon-redrobe-on... Claudio Tennie [5, 6, 7] [5] https://sites.google.com/view/claudiotennie/cv https://sites.google.com/view/claudiotennie/cv [6] https://sites.google.com/view/claudiotennie https://sites.google.com/view/claudiotennie [7] https://uni-tuebingen.de/fakultaeten/mathematisch-naturwissenschaftliche-fakultaet/fachbereiche/geowissenschaften/arbeitsgruppen/urgeschichte-naturwissenschaftliche-archaeologie/forschungsbereich/aeltere-urgeschichte-quartaeroekologie/mitarbeiter/akademische-mitarbeiterinnen-und-mitarbeiter/dr-claudio-tennie/ https://uni-tuebingen.de/fakultaeten/mathematisch-naturwisse... Tom Roth [8] [8] https://www.universiteitleiden.nl/en/staffmembers/1/tom-roth https://www.universiteitleiden.nl/en/staffmembers/1/tom-roth Patrick A. Jansen [9] [9] https://www.wur.nl/en/Persons/Patrickdr.ir.-PA-Patrick-Jansen.htm https://www.wur.nl/en/Persons/Patrickdr.ir.-PA-Patrick-Janse...
- dekhn 7y ago
  checked out all your links; really not seeing how an animal vet qualifies. The people I agree with are the ones on this list who are disagreeing with the original poster, and have the greatest qualifications in the area of interest (wyble and tennie).
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  - vo2maxer 7y ago
    I took your statement, “it looks like nobody on the thread is an expert scientist,” literally. It could be that I’m confused by what you mean with “expert scientist.” You qualified two from the list but questioned Sharon Redobre’s (I misspelled her name in my comment) inclusion as merely being a veterinarian. When I read her curriculum vitae [1], I can’t help but conclude that she is both, an expert in her field, primates and exotic animals, and a scientist based on the definitions I consulted [2, 3, 4]. I will not discuss the others you excluded; it would be tedious and belaboring the point. Finally, I agree with those who refuted the original poster despite his answers to their counterpoint. Someone posted a claim that was argued with civility over the chain of comments, not unlike what happens in HN. How such a discussion is tiresome, I leave to individual preference. :-) [1] https://uk.linkedin.com/in/sharon-redrobe-obe-11139912 https://uk.linkedin.com/in/sharon-redrobe-obe-11139912 [2] https://www.collinsdictionary.com/us/dictionary/english/scientist https://www.collinsdictionary.com/us/dictionary/english/scie... [3] https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/scientist https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/scientist [4] https://sciencecouncil.org/about-science/10-types-of-scientist/ https://sciencecouncil.org/about-science/10-types-of-scienti...