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Roku is frequently derided for being spyware here, and CCC is full of privacy aware hackers. I would have thought the crossover of people interested in CCC and

Roku is frequently derided for being spyware here, and CCC is full of privacy aware hackers. I would have thought the crossover of people interested in CCC and Roku TV subscribers would be fairly low.

somehnguy 7y ago
I'm in the netsec field. I also use a Roku smart TV. Reason being is that I simply don't care if my TV knows what I watch. The software is fantastic, its a tradeoff I'm willing to make. I've tried every OSS media center alternative there is, none of them can compete in terms of my TV 'just working' when I want to sit down and watch something. Bigger fish to fry.
mcny 7y ago
> Roku is frequently derided for being spyware here, and CCC is full of privacy aware hackers. I would have thought the crossover of people interested in CCC and Roku TV subscribers would be fairly low. fwiw, I had trouble watching one of the presentations linked here last week so I went to YouTube and watched it there. Evangelizing/educating is sort of like bank robbery I guess. There's like an old joke where someone asked a famous bank robber why they robbed banks and they said "because that's where the money is"... so maybe there maybe people who don't know they are interested in CCC who they might be able to reach. Looks like CCC has serious problems in its administration (they beat up Vincent Canfield) https://twitter.com/gexcolo/status/1214261610338037761 https://twitter.com/gexcolo/status/1214261610338037761 but imo that does not take away anything from the presenters/presentations.
- jess-sch 7y ago
  > they beat up Vincent Canfield They dragged him out because he refused to leave. He was being quite aggressive and kept resisting. Would it have been more appropriate to call the police? Sure. But I can definitely see how they would feel threatened by him.
solarkraft 7y ago
I have a friend who was gifted an Amazon Fire TV stick and uses it because she doesn't have a lot of disposable income and doesn't care much about the privacy implications. Yet I'd argue she profits from being able to watch C3 talks (she casually cares about) via the various apps (Chaosflix) available through its store.

somehnguy 7y ago

I'm in the netsec field. I also use a Roku smart TV. Reason being is that I simply don't care if my TV knows what I watch. The software is fantastic, its a tradeoff I'm willing to make. I've tried every OSS media center alternative there is, none of them can compete in terms of my TV 'just working' when I want to sit down and watch something. Bigger fish to fry.

mcny 7y ago

> Roku is frequently derided for being spyware here, and CCC is full of privacy aware hackers. I would have thought the crossover of people interested in CCC and Roku TV subscribers would be fairly low. fwiw, I had trouble watching one of the presentations linked here last week so I went to YouTube and watched it there. Evangelizing/educating is sort of like bank robbery I guess. There's like an old joke where someone asked a famous bank robber why they robbed banks and they said "because that's where the money is"... so maybe there maybe people who don't know they are interested in CCC who they might be able to reach. Looks like CCC has serious problems in its administration (they beat up Vincent Canfield) https://twitter.com/gexcolo/status/1214261610338037761 https://twitter.com/gexcolo/status/1214261610338037761 but imo that does not take away anything from the presenters/presentations.

jess-sch 7y ago
> they beat up Vincent Canfield They dragged him out because he refused to leave. He was being quite aggressive and kept resisting. Would it have been more appropriate to call the police? Sure. But I can definitely see how they would feel threatened by him.

solarkraft 7y ago

I have a friend who was gifted an Amazon Fire TV stick and uses it because she doesn't have a lot of disposable income and doesn't care much about the privacy implications. Yet I'd argue she profits from being able to watch C3 talks (she casually cares about) via the various apps (Chaosflix) available through its store.