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Media.ccc.de in Roku Channel Store

66 points by unwiredben 7y ago

spenvo 7y ago
how is this "top of HN" worthy? bot campaign?
- colejohnson66 7y ago
  It gained 42 upvotes in an hour? The software puts low point value posts on the front page if they’re garnered fast enough.
gwbas1c 7y ago
Basic question: Why is this relevant? I've never heard of media.ccc.de, so what's so interesting about it that, as soon as they have a Roku channel, it's the top link at Hacker News? I'm assuming that this organization is somehow controversial? Are they streaming pirated content or something that's politically controversial?
- mgbmtl 7y ago
  I was thinking the opposite: I have no idea what Roku is, but CCC talks are often posted on HN. I guess two worlds collided somehow :) For what it's worth, CCC organizes the "Chaos Communication Congress", which is a fairly large tech/hacker conference, with over 15,000 participants (https://events.ccc.de/congress/2019/wiki/index.php/Main_Page https://events.ccc.de/congress/2019/wiki/index.php/Main_Page)
- tejado 7y ago
  "The Chaos Computer Club (CCC) is Europe's largest association of hackers with 7700 registered members." Also they are organizing the anual hacker chaos communication congress. All talks are available at media.ccc.de.
- cyphar 7y ago
  media.ccc.de is where the Chaos Communications Congress uploads their conference talks (they're one of the largest hacker conferences in Europe). However, their hosting site is available for any conference to use, so it's more like YouTube for tech conferences.
stevehawk 7y ago
For us Americans that don't know anything about this: it seems that this is done by the Chaos Computer Club[0], which runs the Chaos Communication Congress[1] which is a sort of German DEFCON. 0 - https://www.ccc.de/en https://www.ccc.de/en 1 - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chaos_Communication_Congress https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chaos_Communication_Congress
- ronsor 7y ago
  I'd assume most people that know about HN know about the Chaos Computer Club.
  - taddevries 7y ago
    Don't ever make an assumption like that. I have never come across this group.
    - deleted 7y ago
      [deleted]
  - stevehawk 7y ago
    Except I had literally never heard of them. And the only comments on this topic (when I posted) were other people asking who they were and why this was on HN.
    - yorwba 7y ago
      I wonder if you noticed any of these recent frontpage submissions and just didn't associate them with the CCC: https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=pastMonth&page=0&prefix=true&query=media.ccc.de%2Fv&sort=byPopularity&type=story https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=pastMonth&page=0&prefix=tr...
      - stevehawk 7y ago
        I recognize those headlines. I don't believe I clicked a single one of them though (if I did I likely closed it as soon as I saw it was a video). Not that it matters. I opened this HN article wondering what it was all about.. saw several others had already commented they had no idea what it was about.. so I looked it up. And here we are.
Arbalest 7y ago
Roku is frequently derided for being spyware here, and CCC is full of privacy aware hackers. I would have thought the crossover of people interested in CCC and Roku TV subscribers would be fairly low.
- somehnguy 7y ago
  I'm in the netsec field. I also use a Roku smart TV. Reason being is that I simply don't care if my TV knows what I watch. The software is fantastic, its a tradeoff I'm willing to make. I've tried every OSS media center alternative there is, none of them can compete in terms of my TV 'just working' when I want to sit down and watch something. Bigger fish to fry.
- mcny 7y ago
  > Roku is frequently derided for being spyware here, and CCC is full of privacy aware hackers. I would have thought the crossover of people interested in CCC and Roku TV subscribers would be fairly low. fwiw, I had trouble watching one of the presentations linked here last week so I went to YouTube and watched it there. Evangelizing/educating is sort of like bank robbery I guess. There's like an old joke where someone asked a famous bank robber why they robbed banks and they said "because that's where the money is"... so maybe there maybe people who don't know they are interested in CCC who they might be able to reach. Looks like CCC has serious problems in its administration (they beat up Vincent Canfield) https://twitter.com/gexcolo/status/1214261610338037761 https://twitter.com/gexcolo/status/1214261610338037761 but imo that does not take away anything from the presenters/presentations.
  - jess-sch 7y ago
    > they beat up Vincent Canfield They dragged him out because he refused to leave. He was being quite aggressive and kept resisting. Would it have been more appropriate to call the police? Sure. But I can definitely see how they would feel threatened by him.
- solarkraft 7y ago
  I have a friend who was gifted an Amazon Fire TV stick and uses it because she doesn't have a lot of disposable income and doesn't care much about the privacy implications. Yet I'd argue she profits from being able to watch C3 talks (she casually cares about) via the various apps (Chaosflix) available through its store.
e40 7y ago
Is the content is German or English? I assume the former, but want to check before I (non-German speaker) install.
- leipert 7y ago
  All of this years talks are either English or have been translated to English. At the conference there were simultaneous translations. 100% de<->en coverage and few other languages, Russian, French, Polish and Spanish too.
- lhoff 7y ago
  The talks from the big Congress (yearly) are either in German or English. I'd say the split is 50%. But most talks are translated ton English or German and some are to other languages (French, Spanish, Russian). The translations are done by volunteers during the talk so they might not be perfect.
  - yorwba 7y ago
    That doesn't guarantee this Roku channel will have those translations.
    - lhoff 7y ago
      Usually it's represented in different Videos. If they offer all videos, the different language versions should be available.
      - sp332 7y ago
        This year at least, they're distributing them as a single video file with multiple audio tracks. No idea how Roku handles that.
sp332 7y ago
Just some personal recommendations: 23C3: Body Hacking, Hacker Spaces, Mining AOL Search Queries 24C3: Design Noir, Dining Cryptographers, A Spotter's Guide to AACS Keys 25C3: Blinkenlights Stereoscope, Running Your Own GSM Network, Messing Around with Garage Doors 26C3: Weaponizing Cultural Viruses, Playing with the Built City, Cybernetic Cannibalism, Homewreckery 27C3: Data Analysis in Terabit Ethernet Traffic, Console Hacking 2010, A Short Political History of Acoustics, OMG WTF PDF ...my archive has a hole in it here... 33C3: Edible Soft Robotics, Saving the World with (Vegan) Science 34C3: Free Electron Lasers https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16028723 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16028723
HugoHobling 7y ago
This content has been on https://media.ccc.de/ https://media.ccc.de/ for weeks, so there is no need to watch on the Roku store.
unwiredben 7y ago
I'm the developer of this channel and am not directly associated with CCC; I asked for permission to use their API to provide these videos for Roku users and have been developing it off-and-on for a few months. I'm planning on adding more conferences from their collection, but in order to meet the Roku Direct Publisher requirements, I have to make some additional assets for each event beyond what's provided on their site. Code for my API parser and feed generator is at https://github.com/unwiredben/media.ccc.de-on-roku https://github.com/unwiredben/media.ccc.de-on-roku

66 points by unwiredben 7y ago

spenvo 7y ago

how is this "top of HN" worthy? bot campaign?

colejohnson66 7y ago
It gained 42 upvotes in an hour? The software puts low point value posts on the front page if they’re garnered fast enough.

gwbas1c 7y ago

Basic question: Why is this relevant? I've never heard of media.ccc.de, so what's so interesting about it that, as soon as they have a Roku channel, it's the top link at Hacker News? I'm assuming that this organization is somehow controversial? Are they streaming pirated content or something that's politically controversial?

mgbmtl 7y ago
I was thinking the opposite: I have no idea what Roku is, but CCC talks are often posted on HN. I guess two worlds collided somehow :) For what it's worth, CCC organizes the "Chaos Communication Congress", which is a fairly large tech/hacker conference, with over 15,000 participants (https://events.ccc.de/congress/2019/wiki/index.php/Main_Page https://events.ccc.de/congress/2019/wiki/index.php/Main_Page)
tejado 7y ago
"The Chaos Computer Club (CCC) is Europe's largest association of hackers with 7700 registered members." Also they are organizing the anual hacker chaos communication congress. All talks are available at media.ccc.de.
cyphar 7y ago
media.ccc.de is where the Chaos Communications Congress uploads their conference talks (they're one of the largest hacker conferences in Europe). However, their hosting site is available for any conference to use, so it's more like YouTube for tech conferences.

stevehawk 7y ago

For us Americans that don't know anything about this: it seems that this is done by the Chaos Computer Club[0], which runs the Chaos Communication Congress[1] which is a sort of German DEFCON. 0 - https://www.ccc.de/en https://www.ccc.de/en 1 - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chaos_Communication_Congress https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chaos_Communication_Congress

ronsor 7y ago
I'd assume most people that know about HN know about the Chaos Computer Club.
- taddevries 7y ago
  Don't ever make an assumption like that. I have never come across this group.
  - deleted 7y ago
    [deleted]
- stevehawk 7y ago
  Except I had literally never heard of them. And the only comments on this topic (when I posted) were other people asking who they were and why this was on HN.
  - yorwba 7y ago
    I wonder if you noticed any of these recent frontpage submissions and just didn't associate them with the CCC: https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=pastMonth&page=0&prefix=true&query=media.ccc.de%2Fv&sort=byPopularity&type=story https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=pastMonth&page=0&prefix=tr...
    - stevehawk 7y ago
      I recognize those headlines. I don't believe I clicked a single one of them though (if I did I likely closed it as soon as I saw it was a video). Not that it matters. I opened this HN article wondering what it was all about.. saw several others had already commented they had no idea what it was about.. so I looked it up. And here we are.

Arbalest 7y ago

Roku is frequently derided for being spyware here, and CCC is full of privacy aware hackers. I would have thought the crossover of people interested in CCC and Roku TV subscribers would be fairly low.

somehnguy 7y ago
I'm in the netsec field. I also use a Roku smart TV. Reason being is that I simply don't care if my TV knows what I watch. The software is fantastic, its a tradeoff I'm willing to make. I've tried every OSS media center alternative there is, none of them can compete in terms of my TV 'just working' when I want to sit down and watch something. Bigger fish to fry.
mcny 7y ago
> Roku is frequently derided for being spyware here, and CCC is full of privacy aware hackers. I would have thought the crossover of people interested in CCC and Roku TV subscribers would be fairly low. fwiw, I had trouble watching one of the presentations linked here last week so I went to YouTube and watched it there. Evangelizing/educating is sort of like bank robbery I guess. There's like an old joke where someone asked a famous bank robber why they robbed banks and they said "because that's where the money is"... so maybe there maybe people who don't know they are interested in CCC who they might be able to reach. Looks like CCC has serious problems in its administration (they beat up Vincent Canfield) https://twitter.com/gexcolo/status/1214261610338037761 https://twitter.com/gexcolo/status/1214261610338037761 but imo that does not take away anything from the presenters/presentations.
- jess-sch 7y ago
  > they beat up Vincent Canfield They dragged him out because he refused to leave. He was being quite aggressive and kept resisting. Would it have been more appropriate to call the police? Sure. But I can definitely see how they would feel threatened by him.
solarkraft 7y ago
I have a friend who was gifted an Amazon Fire TV stick and uses it because she doesn't have a lot of disposable income and doesn't care much about the privacy implications. Yet I'd argue she profits from being able to watch C3 talks (she casually cares about) via the various apps (Chaosflix) available through its store.

e40 7y ago

Is the content is German or English? I assume the former, but want to check before I (non-German speaker) install.

leipert 7y ago
All of this years talks are either English or have been translated to English. At the conference there were simultaneous translations. 100% de<->en coverage and few other languages, Russian, French, Polish and Spanish too.
lhoff 7y ago
The talks from the big Congress (yearly) are either in German or English. I'd say the split is 50%. But most talks are translated ton English or German and some are to other languages (French, Spanish, Russian). The translations are done by volunteers during the talk so they might not be perfect.
- yorwba 7y ago
  That doesn't guarantee this Roku channel will have those translations.
  - lhoff 7y ago
    Usually it's represented in different Videos. If they offer all videos, the different language versions should be available.
    - sp332 7y ago
      This year at least, they're distributing them as a single video file with multiple audio tracks. No idea how Roku handles that.

sp332 7y ago

Just some personal recommendations: 23C3: Body Hacking, Hacker Spaces, Mining AOL Search Queries 24C3: Design Noir, Dining Cryptographers, A Spotter's Guide to AACS Keys 25C3: Blinkenlights Stereoscope, Running Your Own GSM Network, Messing Around with Garage Doors 26C3: Weaponizing Cultural Viruses, Playing with the Built City, Cybernetic Cannibalism, Homewreckery 27C3: Data Analysis in Terabit Ethernet Traffic, Console Hacking 2010, A Short Political History of Acoustics, OMG WTF PDF ...my archive has a hole in it here... 33C3: Edible Soft Robotics, Saving the World with (Vegan) Science 34C3: Free Electron Lasers https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16028723 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16028723

HugoHobling 7y ago

This content has been on https://media.ccc.de/ https://media.ccc.de/ for weeks, so there is no need to watch on the Roku store.

unwiredben 7y ago

I'm the developer of this channel and am not directly associated with CCC; I asked for permission to use their API to provide these videos for Roku users and have been developing it off-and-on for a few months. I'm planning on adding more conferences from their collection, but in order to meet the Roku Direct Publisher requirements, I have to make some additional assets for each event beyond what's provided on their site. Code for my API parser and feed generator is at https://github.com/unwiredben/media.ccc.de-on-roku https://github.com/unwiredben/media.ccc.de-on-roku