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"And there were issues early on, like axing a show based on Dr. Dre’s life because it was too violent, and canceling one about Richard Gere on a shooting spree

"And there were issues early on, like axing a show based on Dr. Dre’s life because it was too violent, and canceling one about Richard Gere on a shooting spree because it wasn’t friendly enough." Is this 'wholesome-only' stuff from Apple in apps, tv, etc starting to get old and annoying for anyone else?

kirykl 7y ago
Steve did lead Pixar, so there’s maybe some pressure to continue the family focus in TV creation
- quickthrowman 7y ago
  Apple is basing their streaming content strategy on a dead CEO’s former job? That seems rather unlikely.
- unlinked_dll 7y ago
  I wouldn’t call Morning Show (pretty much their only hot) family friendly.
  - CharlesW 7y ago
    For All Mankind (the only show I've watched on Apple+) also has a bunch of adult themes, if not graphic sex and violence. People are having sex (straight and gay), committing adultery, have drinking problems, are dying in horrible accidents, etc. The lack of graphic sex and violence on TV+ doesn't strike me as a big deal since, on the same device, it's available a click away from other content providers. Plus, nothing prevents you from streaming anything you like via AirPlay.
    - oefrha 7y ago
      Oh there’s definitely graphic sex in TMS. And graphic violence is like one quarter of See (plus a little bit of graphic sex). There’s no lack of either on TV+, judging from the two shows I’ve watched so far. (I’ll probably binge For All Mankind soonish.)
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  - kirykl 7y ago
    Haven’t seen any Apple TV+ myself, just going on OPs assertion that it’s all “wholesome-only”
woobar 7y ago
And they rate their existing shows TV-MA for no apparent reason. Why is "For All Mankind" unsuitable for children under 17?
- thewebcount 7y ago
  A few death scenes including of a child? Some brief nudity? (Admittedly I think this one is dumb but it’s what many viewers think. ) Lots of F-bombs. Seems reasonable to me Given their intended audience.
  - woobar 7y ago
    Do you live in a world where a 16 year old will be shocked by an offscreen child death or an F-bomb? There are other ratings exist, for instance TV-14. There was no nudity in that show.
    - ascagnel_ 7y ago
      In the US, use of more than one F-bomb (or using your one in a sexual manner) in a film is an immediate R rating; TV age ratings mostly map to the MPAA film ratings.
- mikestew 7y ago
  Have you watched an episode or two, or just the previews? Because to me it is a show with some obvious adult themes.
  - woobar 7y ago
    Yes I watched it. Tons of shows with similar themes are rated TV-14 on network TV.
    - colejohnson66 7y ago
      There’s technically criteria to a movie/TV show rating. One such being the F-word. One usage is ok in PG-13 rated movie, but any more and it’ll be R. Ultimately though, IIRC, movies are rated by a committee run by the MPAA who watch the movie and rate based on how they feel it should be (while taking the criteria into account).
StuffedParrot 7y ago
I read this as too violent/unfriendly to amass substantial interest from people, not a value judgement per se.
oefrha 7y ago
See is pretty violent (and I like it) so this Apple being wholesome-only cliche is starting to get old and annoying for me.
- danShumway 7y ago
  But if the article is to believed, they are canceling shows because they're too violent. Can you call something a cliche when it's happening in front of you? Is the assumption that because See got released, that Apple didn't actually censor the other shows mentioned here, and Gizmodo is lying?
  - Despegar 7y ago
    The reality is that there's clearly no mandate that all content on Apple TV+ needs to be family friendly, and we know that from what they have released. Dr. Dre's show and the Richard Gere project may have been canceled because the violence or sex was gratuitous, or because it was just bad.
- hurricanetc 7y ago
  It’s not a cliche if it’s true. Apple doesn’t allow anything remotely adult or NSFW in the app store. Apple even went so far as to briefly remove Telegram because a gif search bot contained adult gifs.
GeekyBear 7y ago
The whole plot of The Morning Show revolves around sexual assault. Not exactly "wholesome only".

kirykl 7y ago

Steve did lead Pixar, so there’s maybe some pressure to continue the family focus in TV creation

quickthrowman 7y ago
Apple is basing their streaming content strategy on a dead CEO’s former job? That seems rather unlikely.
unlinked_dll 7y ago
I wouldn’t call Morning Show (pretty much their only hot) family friendly.
- CharlesW 7y ago
  For All Mankind (the only show I've watched on Apple+) also has a bunch of adult themes, if not graphic sex and violence. People are having sex (straight and gay), committing adultery, have drinking problems, are dying in horrible accidents, etc. The lack of graphic sex and violence on TV+ doesn't strike me as a big deal since, on the same device, it's available a click away from other content providers. Plus, nothing prevents you from streaming anything you like via AirPlay.
  - oefrha 7y ago
    Oh there’s definitely graphic sex in TMS. And graphic violence is like one quarter of See (plus a little bit of graphic sex). There’s no lack of either on TV+, judging from the two shows I’ve watched so far. (I’ll probably binge For All Mankind soonish.)
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- kirykl 7y ago
  Haven’t seen any Apple TV+ myself, just going on OPs assertion that it’s all “wholesome-only”

woobar 7y ago

And they rate their existing shows TV-MA for no apparent reason. Why is "For All Mankind" unsuitable for children under 17?

thewebcount 7y ago
A few death scenes including of a child? Some brief nudity? (Admittedly I think this one is dumb but it’s what many viewers think. ) Lots of F-bombs. Seems reasonable to me Given their intended audience.
- woobar 7y ago
  Do you live in a world where a 16 year old will be shocked by an offscreen child death or an F-bomb? There are other ratings exist, for instance TV-14. There was no nudity in that show.
  - ascagnel_ 7y ago
    In the US, use of more than one F-bomb (or using your one in a sexual manner) in a film is an immediate R rating; TV age ratings mostly map to the MPAA film ratings.
mikestew 7y ago
Have you watched an episode or two, or just the previews? Because to me it is a show with some obvious adult themes.
- woobar 7y ago
  Yes I watched it. Tons of shows with similar themes are rated TV-14 on network TV.
  - colejohnson66 7y ago
    There’s technically criteria to a movie/TV show rating. One such being the F-word. One usage is ok in PG-13 rated movie, but any more and it’ll be R. Ultimately though, IIRC, movies are rated by a committee run by the MPAA who watch the movie and rate based on how they feel it should be (while taking the criteria into account).

StuffedParrot 7y ago

I read this as too violent/unfriendly to amass substantial interest from people, not a value judgement per se.

oefrha 7y ago

See is pretty violent (and I like it) so this Apple being wholesome-only cliche is starting to get old and annoying for me.

danShumway 7y ago
But if the article is to believed, they are canceling shows because they're too violent. Can you call something a cliche when it's happening in front of you? Is the assumption that because See got released, that Apple didn't actually censor the other shows mentioned here, and Gizmodo is lying?
- Despegar 7y ago
  The reality is that there's clearly no mandate that all content on Apple TV+ needs to be family friendly, and we know that from what they have released. Dr. Dre's show and the Richard Gere project may have been canceled because the violence or sex was gratuitous, or because it was just bad.
hurricanetc 7y ago
It’s not a cliche if it’s true. Apple doesn’t allow anything remotely adult or NSFW in the app store. Apple even went so far as to briefly remove Telegram because a gif search bot contained adult gifs.

GeekyBear 7y ago

The whole plot of The Morning Show revolves around sexual assault. Not exactly "wholesome only".