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And reddit is doing the new thing. Their new design caused me to leave, even their "old." subdomain is pretty bad. Didn't really need it in my life anyway.

doc_gunthrop 7y ago
But old.reddit.com is the same as reddit before they implemented the bloated redesign.
- takeda 7y ago
  it constantly tries to make you to the new page. I actually have an extension to keep me on old.reddit.com. TBH I really miss Usenet. That functionality is what essentially I'm trying to get from them.
  - atombender 7y ago
    It's an account setting -- you can completely opt out of the new version. I use Reddit every day, and have never been sent to the new version by mistake. Unfortunately, if you use the old version, you will also not have access to the newest mod tools, including a lot of sub settings. But the old version works fine for reading and commenting.
    - bauerd 7y ago
      The old version works fine, if you're aware of these workarounds, and these workarounds will not be shut down I for one don't have an account, so I would get nagged by their popups constantly. It was a perfectly fine website, they ruined it completely for me.
    - dredmorbius 7y ago
      I've set my preference to old numerous times. That setting seems to either revert or disappear entirely / appear as a new setting. I'm constantly directed to www. That's obvious as I've disabled JS for the domain, and so get an empty page with a spinner. It's a clusterfsck.
      - toyg 7y ago
        It’s a cookie, and it’s linked to your login session. If you log out or clear cookies, or use incognito mode, it will revert to new by default. I used to have the same issue until I figured that out. Now I just have a dedicated container for it in Firefox and all is well. I would have left reddit a long time ago if I were forced to use the terrible new UI. The fact that they still keep it around, years later, is a telling sign. When you are so scared of your own decisions, you know you messed up.
        dredmorbius 7y ago
        This occurs consistently whilst logged in.
      - somehnguy 7y ago
        Sounds like your fault. I've had the old interface set in my preferences for years and have never been directed to the new site. If you disable a core technology used to make a site work don't be surprised when the site stops working properly.
      - jandrese 7y ago
        Did you also disable cookies? You might be causing the site to forget your settings by accident.
        dredmorbius 7y ago
        No.
      - atombender 7y ago
        I'm on Reddit daily, and never had it forget my setting. You need to go to your preferences and disable "Use new Reddit as my default experience". When you do this, www.reddit.com shows the old design; you don't need to use old.reddit.com.
        dredmorbius 7y ago
  - Pyxl101 7y ago
    And it constantly annoys you, begging you to use the mobile app. Reddit: Stop it. I'm aware there's a mobile app. If I wanted to use it then I would. I don't need to see an advertisement for it on every damn page.
    - busymom0 7y ago
      On iOS, you can use AdGuard or other blocker and create custom blockers to block all those popups.
  - soup10 7y ago
    2 posts per page isn't usable when most of the content needs to be skimmed through. https://i.imgur.com/9vweCAg.jpg https://i.imgur.com/9vweCAg.jpg
    - busymom0 7y ago
      Does anyone know why exactly they would do something like this? Is it because it forces users to scroll more and thus take longer for people to consume content (so more opportunity to show ads)? It looks like a disaster.
      - zlsa 7y ago
        There is a button (visible in that screenshot) to switch to a far more compact layout. https://host.zlsadesign.com/r1pxSUnkU.png https://host.zlsadesign.com/r1pxSUnkU.png
        soup10 7y ago
        I never noticed that before, just went to the old version after seeing the default layout.
        Semaphor 7y ago
        Old is a lot faster as well (at least when I checked, couldn’t be bothered after it was still horribly slow on a decent desktop PC when they had the full release). I liked the compact look, but performance is (or was) absolutely atrocious.
      - propogandist 7y ago
        yes, exactly. The new format enables them to sell a lot of ad impressions and video ads too
    - skocznymroczny 7y ago
      New design looks like a mess on my 21:9 screen, so much wasted space.
  - fzzzy 7y ago
    I don't ever see it trying to get me to go to the new page.
csande17 7y ago
I personally use and like i.reddit.com, their lightweight mobile version from the era when people used text-shadow to create an embossed effect on navigation bars. The only problem is v.redd.it video links, which catapult you back into redesign-land complete with a modal prompting you to download the app.
brudgers 7y ago
Reddit exited in 2006. It has not been a startup for a long time.
jonas21 7y ago
A key difference is that Digg's traffic cratered after their redesign, while Reddit's traffic has grown like crazy since theirs.
- busymom0 7y ago
  Do they release this data? Also how's the user acquisition and retention rate as compared to traffic?
  - Semaphor 7y ago
    Quick googling got me no other info besides dropping from US #5 to US #6 between ’18 and ’19
  - jonas21 7y ago
    They don't specifically break out numbers pre and post-redesign, but first full year with the new design was 2019, during which there was a: * 30% increase in monthly active users * 37% increase in comments * 53% increase in views https://redditblog.com/2019/12/04/reddits-2019-year-in-review/ https://redditblog.com/2019/12/04/reddits-2019-year-in-revie...
Vinnl 7y ago
I think reddit's so far approaching it well in the sense that they're keeping both around. Also, reddit was doing pretty well before the introduction of subreddits, but that change really was a very successful one.

doc_gunthrop 7y ago

But old.reddit.com is the same as reddit before they implemented the bloated redesign.

takeda 7y ago
it constantly tries to make you to the new page. I actually have an extension to keep me on old.reddit.com. TBH I really miss Usenet. That functionality is what essentially I'm trying to get from them.
- atombender 7y ago
  It's an account setting -- you can completely opt out of the new version. I use Reddit every day, and have never been sent to the new version by mistake. Unfortunately, if you use the old version, you will also not have access to the newest mod tools, including a lot of sub settings. But the old version works fine for reading and commenting.
  - bauerd 7y ago
    The old version works fine, if you're aware of these workarounds, and these workarounds will not be shut down I for one don't have an account, so I would get nagged by their popups constantly. It was a perfectly fine website, they ruined it completely for me.
  - dredmorbius 7y ago
    I've set my preference to old numerous times. That setting seems to either revert or disappear entirely / appear as a new setting. I'm constantly directed to www. That's obvious as I've disabled JS for the domain, and so get an empty page with a spinner. It's a clusterfsck.
    - toyg 7y ago
      It’s a cookie, and it’s linked to your login session. If you log out or clear cookies, or use incognito mode, it will revert to new by default. I used to have the same issue until I figured that out. Now I just have a dedicated container for it in Firefox and all is well. I would have left reddit a long time ago if I were forced to use the terrible new UI. The fact that they still keep it around, years later, is a telling sign. When you are so scared of your own decisions, you know you messed up.
      - dredmorbius 7y ago
        This occurs consistently whilst logged in.
    - somehnguy 7y ago
      Sounds like your fault. I've had the old interface set in my preferences for years and have never been directed to the new site. If you disable a core technology used to make a site work don't be surprised when the site stops working properly.
    - jandrese 7y ago
      Did you also disable cookies? You might be causing the site to forget your settings by accident.
      - dredmorbius 7y ago
        No.
    - atombender 7y ago
      I'm on Reddit daily, and never had it forget my setting. You need to go to your preferences and disable "Use new Reddit as my default experience". When you do this, www.reddit.com shows the old design; you don't need to use old.reddit.com.
      - dredmorbius 7y ago
- Pyxl101 7y ago
  And it constantly annoys you, begging you to use the mobile app. Reddit: Stop it. I'm aware there's a mobile app. If I wanted to use it then I would. I don't need to see an advertisement for it on every damn page.
  - busymom0 7y ago
    On iOS, you can use AdGuard or other blocker and create custom blockers to block all those popups.
- soup10 7y ago
  2 posts per page isn't usable when most of the content needs to be skimmed through. https://i.imgur.com/9vweCAg.jpg https://i.imgur.com/9vweCAg.jpg
  - busymom0 7y ago
    Does anyone know why exactly they would do something like this? Is it because it forces users to scroll more and thus take longer for people to consume content (so more opportunity to show ads)? It looks like a disaster.
    - zlsa 7y ago
      There is a button (visible in that screenshot) to switch to a far more compact layout. https://host.zlsadesign.com/r1pxSUnkU.png https://host.zlsadesign.com/r1pxSUnkU.png
      - soup10 7y ago
        I never noticed that before, just went to the old version after seeing the default layout.
        Semaphor 7y ago
        Old is a lot faster as well (at least when I checked, couldn’t be bothered after it was still horribly slow on a decent desktop PC when they had the full release). I liked the compact look, but performance is (or was) absolutely atrocious.
    - propogandist 7y ago
      yes, exactly. The new format enables them to sell a lot of ad impressions and video ads too
  - skocznymroczny 7y ago
    New design looks like a mess on my 21:9 screen, so much wasted space.
- fzzzy 7y ago
  I don't ever see it trying to get me to go to the new page.

csande17 7y ago

I personally use and like i.reddit.com, their lightweight mobile version from the era when people used text-shadow to create an embossed effect on navigation bars. The only problem is v.redd.it video links, which catapult you back into redesign-land complete with a modal prompting you to download the app.

brudgers 7y ago

Reddit exited in 2006. It has not been a startup for a long time.

jonas21 7y ago

A key difference is that Digg's traffic cratered after their redesign, while Reddit's traffic has grown like crazy since theirs.

busymom0 7y ago
Do they release this data? Also how's the user acquisition and retention rate as compared to traffic?
- Semaphor 7y ago
  Quick googling got me no other info besides dropping from US #5 to US #6 between ’18 and ’19
- jonas21 7y ago
  They don't specifically break out numbers pre and post-redesign, but first full year with the new design was 2019, during which there was a: * 30% increase in monthly active users * 37% increase in comments * 53% increase in views https://redditblog.com/2019/12/04/reddits-2019-year-in-review/ https://redditblog.com/2019/12/04/reddits-2019-year-in-revie...

Vinnl 7y ago

I think reddit's so far approaching it well in the sense that they're keeping both around. Also, reddit was doing pretty well before the introduction of subreddits, but that change really was a very successful one.