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for anyone new to this story, here additional coverage: "Today is the beginning of Marty's 4th week week on a hunger strike. His demands are so modest: non-tox

for anyone new to this story, here additional coverage: "Today is the beginning of Marty's 4th week week on a hunger strike. His demands are so modest: non-toxic water and to appear over the phone for an emergency hearing."[1][2] "Whistleblower Marty Gottesfeld, serving 10 YEARS in prison for exposing medical abductions by Boston Children's Hospital, placed in solitary confinement"[3] [1] https://www.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.nysd.505138/gov.uscourts.nysd.505138.116.0.pdf https://www.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.nysd.505138... [2] https://twitter.com/FreeMartyG/status/1211823172493942785 https://twitter.com/FreeMartyG/status/1211823172493942785 [3] https://www.mintpressnews.com/marty-gottesfeld-another-whistleblower-in-solitary-confinement/256331/ https://www.mintpressnews.com/marty-gottesfeld-another-whist...

gus_massa 7y ago
In [3], I can't found any whistleblowing actions: > The story drew the attention of Marty Gottesfeld, a computer-security expert. He was appalled at the treatment to which Justina and her family were being subjected and he decided to act. He initiated a denial of service attack against the Children’s Hospital computer system and against the Wayside Youth and Family Support Network, where Justina was later moved.
tptacek 7y ago
In what sense did Gottesfeld "blow a whistle"? He's a cause celebre' in the right-wing blogosphere (because Justina Pelletier is, as well), but I can't figure out why. From what I can say, all his information came from the right-wing blogosphere as well; all he did was react violently to it.
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- jessaustin 7y ago
  Everything I've read about this case has been in Mint Press. Are we really supposed to consider that "the right-wing blogosphere"? I feel like we're losing something when words no longer have specific meanings... why would "right-wingers" care more about medical abuse and kidnapping than "left-wingers"? In olden times, advocating for more merciful prison terms was also not considered "right-wing". Is it really different now? I guess at least Gottesfeld hasn't been called "antisemitic" yet... he's no Jeremy Corbyn.
  - kasey_junk 7y ago
    Right now, in this time and place, a news source that has admitted ties to Russia and the Syrian government, is a right wing news source in the States. A weird outcome I agree.
  - tptacek 7y ago
    I have no idea what "Mint Press" is and it is not what I'm referring to when I talk about the right-wing blogosphere ("blogosphere" is the wrong word; whatever the word that captures "online community" is what I'm looking for; Michelle Malkin, who was just booted from YAF(!) for vouching for white supremacist Nick Fuentes, took a picture with Justina Pelletier, and Mike Huckabee wrote an article about it.) I'm neither making up nor projecting the fact that Justine Pelletier is a cause celebré among right-wingers. Incidentally: I'm not casting aspersions (in this instance). Like I said downthread, nobody in this story (except Justina herself) comes out looking good. Justina's parents? Just awful. BCH? Not much better. Of course, nobody looks worse than Martin Gottesfeld.
    - jessaustin 7y ago
      Justina's parents? Just awful. OK, it's this sort of low-brow dismissal that causes me to actually dig through enough search engine BS to find the "reputable" take. [0] [1] So good job, I guess. I find in those two long articles nothing about the parents' behavior to be even suspect, let alone "awful", let alone worse than BCH. That is a totally unsupported garbage judgment, of the sort one might expect from a neurologist with 7 months of experience assigned to be the lead physician for a child diagnosed with chronic metabolic problems and acute intestinal distress. Oh, wait... that's what happened at BCH! If the intention of the state of Massachusetts is to have fewer juvenile patients traveling from out of state for medical care, their policies are absolutely correct. [0] https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2013/12/15/justina/vnwzbbNdiodSD7WDTh6xZI/story.html https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2013/12/15/justina/vnwzbbN... [1] https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2013/12/16/month-medical-ordeal-conclusion-still-uncertain/Y7qvYTGsq8QklkxUZvuUgP/story.html https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2013/12/16/month-medical-o...
      - 7y ago

gus_massa 7y ago

In [3], I can't found any whistleblowing actions: > The story drew the attention of Marty Gottesfeld, a computer-security expert. He was appalled at the treatment to which Justina and her family were being subjected and he decided to act. He initiated a denial of service attack against the Children’s Hospital computer system and against the Wayside Youth and Family Support Network, where Justina was later moved.

tptacek 7y ago

In what sense did Gottesfeld "blow a whistle"? He's a cause celebre' in the right-wing blogosphere (because Justina Pelletier is, as well), but I can't figure out why. From what I can say, all his information came from the right-wing blogosphere as well; all he did was react violently to it.

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jessaustin 7y ago
Everything I've read about this case has been in Mint Press. Are we really supposed to consider that "the right-wing blogosphere"? I feel like we're losing something when words no longer have specific meanings... why would "right-wingers" care more about medical abuse and kidnapping than "left-wingers"? In olden times, advocating for more merciful prison terms was also not considered "right-wing". Is it really different now? I guess at least Gottesfeld hasn't been called "antisemitic" yet... he's no Jeremy Corbyn.
- kasey_junk 7y ago
  Right now, in this time and place, a news source that has admitted ties to Russia and the Syrian government, is a right wing news source in the States. A weird outcome I agree.
- tptacek 7y ago
  I have no idea what "Mint Press" is and it is not what I'm referring to when I talk about the right-wing blogosphere ("blogosphere" is the wrong word; whatever the word that captures "online community" is what I'm looking for; Michelle Malkin, who was just booted from YAF(!) for vouching for white supremacist Nick Fuentes, took a picture with Justina Pelletier, and Mike Huckabee wrote an article about it.) I'm neither making up nor projecting the fact that Justine Pelletier is a cause celebré among right-wingers. Incidentally: I'm not casting aspersions (in this instance). Like I said downthread, nobody in this story (except Justina herself) comes out looking good. Justina's parents? Just awful. BCH? Not much better. Of course, nobody looks worse than Martin Gottesfeld.
  - jessaustin 7y ago
    Justina's parents? Just awful. OK, it's this sort of low-brow dismissal that causes me to actually dig through enough search engine BS to find the "reputable" take. [0] [1] So good job, I guess. I find in those two long articles nothing about the parents' behavior to be even suspect, let alone "awful", let alone worse than BCH. That is a totally unsupported garbage judgment, of the sort one might expect from a neurologist with 7 months of experience assigned to be the lead physician for a child diagnosed with chronic metabolic problems and acute intestinal distress. Oh, wait... that's what happened at BCH! If the intention of the state of Massachusetts is to have fewer juvenile patients traveling from out of state for medical care, their policies are absolutely correct. [0] https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2013/12/15/justina/vnwzbbNdiodSD7WDTh6xZI/story.html https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2013/12/15/justina/vnwzbbN... [1] https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2013/12/16/month-medical-ordeal-conclusion-still-uncertain/Y7qvYTGsq8QklkxUZvuUgP/story.html https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2013/12/16/month-medical-o...
    - 7y ago