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Going into details will just invite more down votes. You can look through my older posts if you really want to know. I talked about it a bit when I first create

Going into details will just invite more down votes. You can look through my older posts if you really want to know. I talked about it a bit when I first created this account.

scarejunba 7y ago
Fine. I looked. Chronic Fatigue Syndrome treated by chelation therapy. His hypothesis is that mercury poisoning caused it. OP is not an anti-vaxxer but was accused of being one because they blamed mercury. OP also had bone fractures and fascia disintegration. OP also had tense forearm muscles (?) described as 'rock hard' due to RSI. I don't know why you're being so vague about it. It's likely you're being downvoted for the vagueness rather than anything else. Still, he has an email listed if you're curious.
- wavepruner 7y ago
  Thanks for the summary. (edit: although I do not think CFS is an appropriate diagnosis as it doesn't even come close to describing all the symptoms.) I led with the details on a different account. My karma was destroyed and afaict my posting privileges were revoked for posting too frequently with explanations. I don't think you understand the huge amount of anger that some people have towards people like me saying mercury caused this illness. Leading vaguely and easing people into the details prevents my karma from being destroyed. I'm not sure how else to handle this except by not talking about it at all, but the only way I can make meaning out of my experience is to help others with the same illness, so I will continue to do so. I found the cure from posts like the one's I make now. I'm paying it forward.
  - hitekker 7y ago
    Thank you for the context, but I wouldn't defend yourself in this thread: you already have one person narrating your posting history, and another cursing at you (in seeming rage) for not oversharing. Who would have thought that, on HN of all places, a request for privacy would be interpreted as a license for abuse?
    - wtallis 7y ago
      When you claim to have superior knowledge than the medical establishment and allege that there's a "cabal" in opposition to your miracle cure, you cannot expect to be taken seriously while withholding information. That's a very clear "put up or shut up" situation.
  - scarejunba 7y ago
    Haha, I'm familiar with the rate-limiter and ban. Anyway, just to clarify, I didn't mean to diagnose anything up there ; just summarize your comments. I know you didn't say that I did, but just mentioning it here for the third parties.
- a1369209993 7y ago
  > was accused of being [an anti-vaxxer] because they blamed mercury. What the fuck do those even have to do with each other? Also, upvoted for actually posting object-level claims rather than whining about downvotes.
  - patmcc 7y ago
    One of the common anti-vaxxer talking points is about how vaccines are dangerous because they contain mercury.
  - beering 7y ago
    Probably because a lot of the antivax scare was around thimerosal in vaccines (which is a mercury compound). Logic was: mercury is known to be poisonous, thimerosal is a mercury compound, thus vaccines must be poisonous.
    - rimliu 7y ago
      I wonder what they think about table salt.
      - makomk 7y ago
        I've seen this analogy a lot from people who think they're obviously much smarter than the antivax idiots. It's completely, horrifically wrong. Much of mercury's reputation for toxicity actually comes from mercury compounds very similar to thiomersal, which are in general a lot more dangerous than the elemental form. Amongst other things, they're the reason that eating large amounts of fish causes mercury and the culprit in the Minamata Bay mass poisoning. You can hold a pool of mercury in your hand with basically no ill effects, but as little as a single drop of one of those mercury compounds on your skin can kill. Now, it turns out that the very small amounts of thiomersal in vaccines were probably safe. This was by no means obvious at the time. Mercury poisoning is nasty - the symptoms can appear long after the initial exposure, range from death to subtle neurological effects like changes in behaviour and loss of IQ, and appear at relatively low exposures. Also, there just wasn't all that much modern research into thiomersal or its metabolite ethylmercury.
- anovikov 7y ago
  What's the problem with chelation therapy? I mean, okay it might not help and hypothesis may get disproven, but why not just take it? It doesn't seem to be either very expensive or very dangerous/have very strong side effects from what i can quickly google up?

Going into details will just invite more down votes. You can look through my older posts if you really want to know. I talked about it a bit when I first created this account.

scarejunba 7y ago

Fine. I looked. Chronic Fatigue Syndrome treated by chelation therapy. His hypothesis is that mercury poisoning caused it. OP is not an anti-vaxxer but was accused of being one because they blamed mercury. OP also had bone fractures and fascia disintegration. OP also had tense forearm muscles (?) described as 'rock hard' due to RSI. I don't know why you're being so vague about it. It's likely you're being downvoted for the vagueness rather than anything else. Still, he has an email listed if you're curious.

wavepruner 7y ago
Thanks for the summary. (edit: although I do not think CFS is an appropriate diagnosis as it doesn't even come close to describing all the symptoms.) I led with the details on a different account. My karma was destroyed and afaict my posting privileges were revoked for posting too frequently with explanations. I don't think you understand the huge amount of anger that some people have towards people like me saying mercury caused this illness. Leading vaguely and easing people into the details prevents my karma from being destroyed. I'm not sure how else to handle this except by not talking about it at all, but the only way I can make meaning out of my experience is to help others with the same illness, so I will continue to do so. I found the cure from posts like the one's I make now. I'm paying it forward.
- hitekker 7y ago
  Thank you for the context, but I wouldn't defend yourself in this thread: you already have one person narrating your posting history, and another cursing at you (in seeming rage) for not oversharing. Who would have thought that, on HN of all places, a request for privacy would be interpreted as a license for abuse?
  - wtallis 7y ago
    When you claim to have superior knowledge than the medical establishment and allege that there's a "cabal" in opposition to your miracle cure, you cannot expect to be taken seriously while withholding information. That's a very clear "put up or shut up" situation.
- scarejunba 7y ago
  Haha, I'm familiar with the rate-limiter and ban. Anyway, just to clarify, I didn't mean to diagnose anything up there ; just summarize your comments. I know you didn't say that I did, but just mentioning it here for the third parties.
a1369209993 7y ago
> was accused of being [an anti-vaxxer] because they blamed mercury. What the fuck do those even have to do with each other? Also, upvoted for actually posting object-level claims rather than whining about downvotes.
- patmcc 7y ago
  One of the common anti-vaxxer talking points is about how vaccines are dangerous because they contain mercury.
- beering 7y ago
  Probably because a lot of the antivax scare was around thimerosal in vaccines (which is a mercury compound). Logic was: mercury is known to be poisonous, thimerosal is a mercury compound, thus vaccines must be poisonous.
  - rimliu 7y ago
    I wonder what they think about table salt.
    - makomk 7y ago
      I've seen this analogy a lot from people who think they're obviously much smarter than the antivax idiots. It's completely, horrifically wrong. Much of mercury's reputation for toxicity actually comes from mercury compounds very similar to thiomersal, which are in general a lot more dangerous than the elemental form. Amongst other things, they're the reason that eating large amounts of fish causes mercury and the culprit in the Minamata Bay mass poisoning. You can hold a pool of mercury in your hand with basically no ill effects, but as little as a single drop of one of those mercury compounds on your skin can kill. Now, it turns out that the very small amounts of thiomersal in vaccines were probably safe. This was by no means obvious at the time. Mercury poisoning is nasty - the symptoms can appear long after the initial exposure, range from death to subtle neurological effects like changes in behaviour and loss of IQ, and appear at relatively low exposures. Also, there just wasn't all that much modern research into thiomersal or its metabolite ethylmercury.
anovikov 7y ago
What's the problem with chelation therapy? I mean, okay it might not help and hypothesis may get disproven, but why not just take it? It doesn't seem to be either very expensive or very dangerous/have very strong side effects from what i can quickly google up?