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Which organization do you mean?

tpmx 7y ago
https://www.golem.de/news/ccc-und-die-afd-wie-politisch-darf-ein-hackertreffen-sein-1812-138441.html https://www.golem.de/news/ccc-und-die-afd-wie-politisch-darf... shows one...
omnibrain 7y ago
I think he means Antifa, which is not an organisation but more of a network or movement. And no, not "most" would call them a "terrorist group".
- ceeceecee 7y ago
  What's your definition of a terrorist organization? Antifa uses violence against opponents, vandalism, and arson to extort political concessions. There may not be global/regional leaders like in other terror groups, but people identify as being a member of the group and coordinate their efforts among each other.
  - glogla 7y ago
    Antifa is well explained in this video: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bgwS_FMZ3nQ https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bgwS_FMZ3nQ Antifa means antifascist action - when there's fascists doing things, antifa appears to rry to stop them from doing fascist things. Antifa has no leaders and no real membership because it's just people standing against fascism. If someone identifies as a member, they are wrong and possibly fake.
    - tpmx 7y ago
      In terms of organizational strategy it sounds sort of like that of Al Qaeda.
      - glogla 7y ago
        I suppose that as long as you ignore both their methods, goals and who are they fighting against, there would be similarities. I'm not convinced of the usefulness of such excercise, though.
        tpmx 7y ago
        Goals and values, sure, they are obviously different. Methods? Not so sure there's a big difference.
        FDSGSG 7y ago
        Do you genuinely believe this? If yes, would you care to expand further on this? I'm utterly fascinated and would love to hear more background on what leads you to believe that this comparison is apt.
        glogla 7y ago
        You're not sure there's not a big difference between organising protests, and hitting building with airplanes or commiting bombing that killed thousands of people? Really?
        tpmx 7y ago
        Bye.
ralfd 7y ago
Maybe 'Extinction Rebellion'? I don't know though if they have a stand on this CCC event.
alehander42 7y ago
Why is this comment flagged? Is antifa having its own segment/talks? this would be very useful to know, as they're indeed an extremely radical organization(you can have left views and not resort to anything resembling that IMO)
- legulere 7y ago
  Antifa is not one organization and the lowest common denominator is acting against fascism.
  - alehander42 7y ago
    acting against fascism is also keeping normal comments unflagged(uncensored)

tpmx 7y ago

https://www.golem.de/news/ccc-und-die-afd-wie-politisch-darf-ein-hackertreffen-sein-1812-138441.html https://www.golem.de/news/ccc-und-die-afd-wie-politisch-darf... shows one...

omnibrain 7y ago

I think he means Antifa, which is not an organisation but more of a network or movement. And no, not "most" would call them a "terrorist group".

ceeceecee 7y ago
What's your definition of a terrorist organization? Antifa uses violence against opponents, vandalism, and arson to extort political concessions. There may not be global/regional leaders like in other terror groups, but people identify as being a member of the group and coordinate their efforts among each other.
- glogla 7y ago
  Antifa is well explained in this video: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bgwS_FMZ3nQ https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bgwS_FMZ3nQ Antifa means antifascist action - when there's fascists doing things, antifa appears to rry to stop them from doing fascist things. Antifa has no leaders and no real membership because it's just people standing against fascism. If someone identifies as a member, they are wrong and possibly fake.
  - tpmx 7y ago
    In terms of organizational strategy it sounds sort of like that of Al Qaeda.
    - glogla 7y ago
      I suppose that as long as you ignore both their methods, goals and who are they fighting against, there would be similarities. I'm not convinced of the usefulness of such excercise, though.
      - tpmx 7y ago
        Goals and values, sure, they are obviously different. Methods? Not so sure there's a big difference.
        FDSGSG 7y ago
        Do you genuinely believe this? If yes, would you care to expand further on this? I'm utterly fascinated and would love to hear more background on what leads you to believe that this comparison is apt.
        glogla 7y ago
        You're not sure there's not a big difference between organising protests, and hitting building with airplanes or commiting bombing that killed thousands of people? Really?
        tpmx 7y ago
        Bye.

ralfd 7y ago

Maybe 'Extinction Rebellion'? I don't know though if they have a stand on this CCC event.

alehander42 7y ago

Why is this comment flagged? Is antifa having its own segment/talks? this would be very useful to know, as they're indeed an extremely radical organization(you can have left views and not resort to anything resembling that IMO)

legulere 7y ago
Antifa is not one organization and the lowest common denominator is acting against fascism.
- alehander42 7y ago
  acting against fascism is also keeping normal comments unflagged(uncensored)