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What other languages you work with that have native Windows support?

by jiofih 7y ago

pault 7y ago
I'm having a harder time coming up with a language that doesn't have native Windows support. All of the language runtimes I've worked with (node, ruby, python, java, c#, php) have had native Windows binaries.
- e12e 7y ago
  bash? (outside of mingw/wsl/cygwin)?
  - yellowapple 7y ago
    There's a Windows-native version of bash included with the Windows version of Git, no? But yeah, I'd definitely count MinGW (or more modernly, MSYS2) as "native" in this context.
    - orthoxerox 7y ago
      > There's a Windows-native version of bash included with the Windows version of Git, no? Not really, as it's built against MSYS2 libs, which are a fork of Cygwin.
      - yellowapple 7y ago
        > I'd definitely count MinGW (or more modernly, MSYS2) as "native" in this context
Flicki 7y ago
Aside from Crystal what languages don't support Windows? You pretty much have to go out of your way to make a language that won't run on Windows.
- socialdemocrat 7y ago
  Windows support is often behind other platforms though. Linux and Mac support tend to get prioritized for new languages. Not sure if Swift works very well on Windows e.g.
- icelend 7y ago
  >You pretty much have to go out of your way to make a language that won't run on Windows. That's a bit ridiculous. In the group of most desktop operating systems, Windows is the odd ball. Supporting it is a huge hassle, and from a certain point of view with a very small ROI. I wonder why the Swift threads have far fewer complaints about missing Windows support. Perhaps the absurdity is more obvious in that case?
  - gdxhyrd 7y ago
    Swift is a corporate-backed language, and everyone knows Apple is trying to lock-in customers (both users and devs).
  - AnIdiotOnTheNet 7y ago
    > In the group of most desktop operating systems, Windows is the odd ball. Hilarious considering it is, by far, the most used desktop operating system. It's almost like there's a reason small languages stay small...
    - icelend 7y ago
      >Hilarious considering it is, by far, the most used desktop operating system. You think so? The latest Stackoverflow survey says otherwise: https://insights.stackoverflow.com/survey/2019#technology-_-platforms https://insights.stackoverflow.com/survey/2019#technology-_-... "Linux 53.3%, Windows 50.7% MacOS 22.2%" Yes, since the question is slightly open, this could refer to target platforms instead of what the actual developers are using on their desktops. Still, a nice-looking datapoint ;) Anecdotally, as an IT chief I see developers who use Windows struggle with tasks that are simple in Linux and MacOS. There's a reason why a) MacOS won so many developers and why b) Microsoft is spending so many resources making WSL/WSL2.
jiofih 7y ago
Rephrasing: what other non-mainstream languages do you work with that have native windows support? I see pretty much 80% of interesting developments happening on *nix first.

What other languages you work with that have native Windows support?

by jiofih 7y ago

What other languages you work with that have native Windows support?

I'm having a harder time coming up with a language that doesn't have native Windows support. All of the language runtimes I've worked with (node, ruby, python, java, c#, php) have had native Windows binaries.

e12e 7y ago
bash? (outside of mingw/wsl/cygwin)?
- yellowapple 7y ago
  There's a Windows-native version of bash included with the Windows version of Git, no? But yeah, I'd definitely count MinGW (or more modernly, MSYS2) as "native" in this context.
  - orthoxerox 7y ago
    > There's a Windows-native version of bash included with the Windows version of Git, no? Not really, as it's built against MSYS2 libs, which are a fork of Cygwin.
    - yellowapple 7y ago
      > I'd definitely count MinGW (or more modernly, MSYS2) as "native" in this context

Flicki 7y ago

Aside from Crystal what languages don't support Windows? You pretty much have to go out of your way to make a language that won't run on Windows.

socialdemocrat 7y ago
Windows support is often behind other platforms though. Linux and Mac support tend to get prioritized for new languages. Not sure if Swift works very well on Windows e.g.
icelend 7y ago
>You pretty much have to go out of your way to make a language that won't run on Windows. That's a bit ridiculous. In the group of most desktop operating systems, Windows is the odd ball. Supporting it is a huge hassle, and from a certain point of view with a very small ROI. I wonder why the Swift threads have far fewer complaints about missing Windows support. Perhaps the absurdity is more obvious in that case?
- gdxhyrd 7y ago
  Swift is a corporate-backed language, and everyone knows Apple is trying to lock-in customers (both users and devs).
- AnIdiotOnTheNet 7y ago
  > In the group of most desktop operating systems, Windows is the odd ball. Hilarious considering it is, by far, the most used desktop operating system. It's almost like there's a reason small languages stay small...
  - icelend 7y ago
    >Hilarious considering it is, by far, the most used desktop operating system. You think so? The latest Stackoverflow survey says otherwise: https://insights.stackoverflow.com/survey/2019#technology-_-platforms https://insights.stackoverflow.com/survey/2019#technology-_-... "Linux 53.3%, Windows 50.7% MacOS 22.2%" Yes, since the question is slightly open, this could refer to target platforms instead of what the actual developers are using on their desktops. Still, a nice-looking datapoint ;) Anecdotally, as an IT chief I see developers who use Windows struggle with tasks that are simple in Linux and MacOS. There's a reason why a) MacOS won so many developers and why b) Microsoft is spending so many resources making WSL/WSL2.

jiofih 7y ago

Rephrasing: what other non-mainstream languages do you work with that have native windows support? I see pretty much 80% of interesting developments happening on *nix first.