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Another idea to "force" US hand is to make it their problem in other ways. Dig it up, and threaten to leave it / break it on a place where currents flow towards

Another idea to "force" US hand is to make it their problem in other ways. Dig it up, and threaten to leave it / break it on a place where currents flow towards continental United States. Of course this should never be done, as it is some sort of eco-terrorism, but is one of the many ways the US can have their hands forced. Edit: in case this is not clear, I am never advocating for something like this to happen. But it is always a stupid idea to leave potentially lethal and dangerous materials on the land of a place you've scarred and destroyed and which doesn't want it at all.

adventured 7y ago
> Dig it up, and threaten to leave it / break it on a place where currents flow towards continental United States. Declaring war on the United States with a threat of intentional nuclear warfare against its population would be a particularly bad idea. That'll get your sovereignty revoked very quickly via military occupation. The response to what I said of course is: yeah but the US is doing a bad thing. That's correct and it changes absolutely nothing about the fact that declaring nuclear war on the US, declaring the intention to try to harm its people with nuclear material, is a bad idea. Fairness is never going to exist between a superpower and weaker nations, it never has, it never will. The superpower dictates the terms in nearly all cases.
- LatteLazy 7y ago
  Well that's fine too: the US will then need to deal with it's new colony's nuclear waste legacy! "Oh no, we lost and got everything we needed!" :) Isn't there an old film where a small island declares independence from the US, declares war on the US and then surrenders after 5 minutes to get aid? (Edited because I think it's actually colony's not colonies)
  - tonyarkles 7y ago
    > Isn't there an old film where a small island declares independence from the US, declares war on the US and then surrenders after 5 minutes to get aid? I feel like it was an episode/arc in The West Wing.
  - edorrington 7y ago
    It’s a film called “The Mouse that Roared” with Peter Sellers; a very funny movie (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0053084/ https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0053084/).
    - Ididntdothis 7y ago
      I remember the buzzing of the Q bomb.
dsfyu404ed 7y ago
>Another idea to "force" US hand is to make it their problem in other ways. Dig it up, and threaten to leave it / break it on a place where currents flow towards continental United States. It's not wise for small nations to give big nations the bird like that when there are other options. GP's suggestion is much more tactful because nobody worth taking seriously is going to argue with the idea of selling property to the highest bidder whereas dumping stuff in the ocean is generally frowned upon by everyone.

adventured 7y ago

> Dig it up, and threaten to leave it / break it on a place where currents flow towards continental United States. Declaring war on the United States with a threat of intentional nuclear warfare against its population would be a particularly bad idea. That'll get your sovereignty revoked very quickly via military occupation. The response to what I said of course is: yeah but the US is doing a bad thing. That's correct and it changes absolutely nothing about the fact that declaring nuclear war on the US, declaring the intention to try to harm its people with nuclear material, is a bad idea. Fairness is never going to exist between a superpower and weaker nations, it never has, it never will. The superpower dictates the terms in nearly all cases.

LatteLazy 7y ago
Well that's fine too: the US will then need to deal with it's new colony's nuclear waste legacy! "Oh no, we lost and got everything we needed!" :) Isn't there an old film where a small island declares independence from the US, declares war on the US and then surrenders after 5 minutes to get aid? (Edited because I think it's actually colony's not colonies)
- tonyarkles 7y ago
  > Isn't there an old film where a small island declares independence from the US, declares war on the US and then surrenders after 5 minutes to get aid? I feel like it was an episode/arc in The West Wing.
- edorrington 7y ago
  It’s a film called “The Mouse that Roared” with Peter Sellers; a very funny movie (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0053084/ https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0053084/).
  - Ididntdothis 7y ago
    I remember the buzzing of the Q bomb.

dsfyu404ed 7y ago

>Another idea to "force" US hand is to make it their problem in other ways. Dig it up, and threaten to leave it / break it on a place where currents flow towards continental United States. It's not wise for small nations to give big nations the bird like that when there are other options. GP's suggestion is much more tactful because nobody worth taking seriously is going to argue with the idea of selling property to the highest bidder whereas dumping stuff in the ocean is generally frowned upon by everyone.