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I'm not sure are you serious about not seeing landfill connection with environmental problems or just being sarcastic. If landfills are not such a problem, why

by dig1 7y ago

I'm not sure are you serious about not seeing landfill connection with environmental problems or just being sarcastic. If landfills are not such a problem, why "developed" countries (I won't name them but we know who they are) are exporting junk to China, India and Africa? Why simply not set landfills near popular cities so we can all enjoy the beauty of "low environmental issue" problems ;) These days there is more trust in corrupted media than plain logic.

maxerickson 7y ago
For a long time it was because China was buying it. Here the landfill has recycling sorting on site and puts glass in the landfill because no one will pay what it costs to ship it.
ars 7y ago
Your information is incorrect. No countries are exporting junk, rather some countries buy recycling in order to profitably use it. And those developed countries were willing to sell it. And yes those developed countries do in fact have landfills and they use them. there are no countries that export pure trash to be landfilled in a third world country.
- Scoundreller 7y ago
  > there are no countries that export pure trash to be landfilled in a third world country. Of course they do. Even Toronto was exporting 100 truckloads of trash to Michigan for years until recently. https://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/2018/02/19/canadian-garbage-michigan-landfills-solid-waste/337837002/ https://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/2018/02/19/c...
  - ars 7y ago
    Michigan might be cold but it's not a 3rd world country. Michigan, perhaps you might have noticed, borders Canada. No one is shipping trash long distance.
Solar19 7y ago
The reason governments waste time on recycling, or fail to authorize landfills, or orchestrate the export of trash to other countries is because environmentalists exist and are very active. They're especially powerful in rich countries – in fact, environmentalism seems to be a function of affluence. Affluence looks like a necessary but not sufficient condition, loosely speaking.

by dig1 7y ago

maxerickson 7y ago

For a long time it was because China was buying it. Here the landfill has recycling sorting on site and puts glass in the landfill because no one will pay what it costs to ship it.

ars 7y ago

Your information is incorrect. No countries are exporting junk, rather some countries buy recycling in order to profitably use it. And those developed countries were willing to sell it. And yes those developed countries do in fact have landfills and they use them. there are no countries that export pure trash to be landfilled in a third world country.

Scoundreller 7y ago
> there are no countries that export pure trash to be landfilled in a third world country. Of course they do. Even Toronto was exporting 100 truckloads of trash to Michigan for years until recently. https://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/2018/02/19/canadian-garbage-michigan-landfills-solid-waste/337837002/ https://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/2018/02/19/c...
- ars 7y ago
  Michigan might be cold but it's not a 3rd world country. Michigan, perhaps you might have noticed, borders Canada. No one is shipping trash long distance.

Solar19 7y ago

The reason governments waste time on recycling, or fail to authorize landfills, or orchestrate the export of trash to other countries is because environmentalists exist and are very active. They're especially powerful in rich countries – in fact, environmentalism seems to be a function of affluence. Affluence looks like a necessary but not sufficient condition, loosely speaking.