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‘Spiderman’ Hacker Daniel Kaye Took Down Liberia’s Internet
- barli 7y agoActually hacker related stuff..
- barli 7y agoThose of you who worked at Facebook/Google, wouldn't he make more money by simply being L5-L8 at one of those firms?
- owlninja 7y agoPossibly, but it sounds like he was just not wired for a straight job.
- edm0nd 7y agoFor us non-FANG ppl, what does L5-L8 mean? Are those cybersec job role classifications?
- tartoran 7y agoI think the OP refers to Level 5 to Level 8 but I don't know what they mean either.
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- mmahemoff 7y agoHere is Google's career ladder for software engineers: https://codingrelic.geekhold.com/2018/08/google-software-engineering-levels-and.html https://codingrelic.geekhold.com/2018/08/google-software-eng... Your typical engineer with relevant education and 5 years of experience is probably about L4/5.
- maxvu 7y agoI think https://www.levels.fyi/ https://www.levels.fyi/ gives these classifications.
- danellis 7y agoEven if he did get in, it seems unlikely that he'd be able progress beyond L5, after which leadership becomes more important.
- gautamdivgi 7y agoAnd deal with all the organizational politics?
- asdfe121f3 7y agoBut can he reverse a linked list?
- m00dy 7y agoI busted out loud at this one.
- planetzero 7y agoI always think about this too (with people that decide to resort to this sort of activity..and any criminal activity in general). The difference: you have full control over your destiny, power that you don't have to spend a decade earning..you just take it, and you don't have ask for permission. There's also a thrill to it. Something you really don't get from a boring desk job..even for the likes of google and Facebook. It's very similar to those amateur pedo-busting groups on Youtube. Why not just become a detective? Because you then have to go through all kinds of red tape and answer to an asshole boss when things go wrong. Instead, you can play super hero for views and subscription numbers.
- barli 7y agoGood point!
- celticninja 7y agoI mean the thrill greatly outweighs the monetary reward of this type of activity.
- paggle 7y agoFor certain people, making money illegally is more fun than making it legally, even in spite of the risk.
- celticninja 7y agoBecause of the risk.
- driverdan 7y agoHe was making $10k / month cash for one botnet client alone. Factoring in CA taxes that's $16k+ he'd have to be paid at a regular job. He was making a lot more money than that from renting it to others and other undisclosed hacks. Besides, it's not just the money.
- daveFNbuck 7y agoL5 at Google makes something like $29k/month according to https://www.levels.fyi/ https://www.levels.fyi/
- vlovich123 7y agoFor context L5s make 33k/mo before taxes. L7s ~66k. L8s are easily in the ~80k+ territory. The bands also get MUCH wider in L6+ land with lots of overlap.
- daveFNbuck 7y ago> Daniel Kaye, also known as Spdrman, found regular jobs tough but corporate espionage easy.
- Buge 7y ago> simply being L5-L8 The article says he applied to many companies, and they all turned him down because he was too suspicious.
- bsanr2 7y ago>An Israeli/American-owned telecommunications company tries to oust the dominant Liberian-owned company in Liberia, using unsavory tactics meant to shame and humiliate the latter and its users, eventually hoping to sell out to a French telecommunications giant. Oh, and then they just straight-up hack/DDOS them. I'd like to introduce the term "neo-colonialism" to the discussion.
- throwaway_tech 7y ago>I'd like to introduce the term "neo-colonialism" to the discussion. I am curious if you are aware of the context of colonialism with respect to Liberia. Oddly, many aren't aware, but Liberia was founded as a colony by the American Colonization Society in an attempt to return freed slaves back to Africa. Although the number of US slaves that colonized Liberia was pretty limited in number (and a minority compared to the number of natives) they took power, and the Country has essentially existed in a state of civil war between the freed slaves (colonists) as minority rulers and the natives who did not view the freed US slaves as Africans.
- edoo 7y agoThe Vice documentary on the cannibal warlords of Liberia is quite shocking. The slaves that were expatriated from America to Liberia promptly enslaved the local population with a nearly identical system to the one they had been taught to live under as slaves.
- throwaway_tech 7y agoIf you are interest in the subject I recommend reading "The Evolution of Deadly Conflict in Liberia: From 'Paternaltarianism' to State Collapse"
- atlasunshrugged 7y agoAny idea where to get it without paying an arm and a leg? I see it on Amazon for $199 and then for subscription via a few journals from a quick search
- Gusen 7y agoThese guys want to take down our country: FBI Director Wray, AG Barr, SoD Shanahan, & SoS Pompeo all raped boys for billions in bribes for Soros & Koch funded child rape org. So did Trump, his 'impeachment' team Nadler, Schiff, & Mueller. So did media moguls Redstone, Murdoch, Moonves. What is this preparation for? Who can arrest them? \\\Download the video/audio file, put on headphones and turn up the volume. You will hear these people committing these crimes. Audio was broadcast into my apartment by outdated surveillance equipment illegally embedded within my walls. This very same technology was being used to broadcast me to the internet for five years without my consent. I own this footage. Please use this to prosecute all found within. Note:: I am obliviously speaking throughout the video, and it can be quite loud at times relative to the desired content. The are dozens more links, including these, that can be found in this 139 page PDF that was last updated 16thDec2019: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Sj9EN_pHmicKS6rFQlmk67knMdJc9cGk/view?usp=sharing https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Sj9EN_pHmicKS6rFQlmk67knMdJ... Members of the "Illuminati"; "....an underground organization of homosexuals and child rapists..." (pg 26: Obama, Dorsey). President Donald Trump: Accepts a four billion dollar bribe here at 10:18 am on the 4th Jan2019: 3JanCh3_900-1100.avi https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Grdr8xF2psKNsuYlEnl9dIRV-77YG0Vr/view?usp=sharing https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Grdr8xF2psKNsuYlEnl9dIRV-77... 3JanCh2_900-1100.avi https://drive.google.com/file/d/1LUmVygl_q0XVs8h2cWr8jZl-24fY0vBB/view?usp=sharing https://drive.google.com/file/d/1LUmVygl_q0XVs8h2cWr8jZl-24f... 3JanCh4_1000-1100.mp3 https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ZpP1pJbJakBgg-y-MWNozTxp3wJojHge/view?usp=sharing https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ZpP1pJbJakBgg-y-MWNozTxp3wJ... Trump rapes and kills a dozen boys, including five boys in a "who can rape five boys to death the fastest" game: 14JanCh3_600.mp3 https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ufPmglde9Mep0m6xYMJ9c4TWTjj258zB/view?usp=sharing https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ufPmglde9Mep0m6xYMJ9c4TWTjj... 14JanCh2_600-700.mp3 https://drive.google.com/file/d/136qLJdEn8eCs9tI4QtIxl4opW_Lw_gCF/view?usp=sharing https://drive.google.com/file/d/136qLJdEn8eCs9tI4QtIxl4opW_L... Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi: Accepts a $3 billion dollar bribe at 1033am 17Jan2019 to ensure Asian boys can get through the border undocumented to be raped: 17JanCh3_949-1100.avi https://drive.google.com/file/d/1eodHu4o5Cm3xEWhDqipSuTj-M1CZUvmE/view?usp=sharing https://drive.google.com/file/d/1eodHu4o5Cm3xEWhDqipSuTj-M1C... 17JanCh4_1017-1100.avi https://drive.google.com/file/d/1y-nWEQbempkVZSz230j9wTyduZNjDmnk/view?usp=sharing https://drive.google.com/file/d/1y-nWEQbempkVZSz230j9wTyduZN... Pelosi also "preps" boys with First Lady Melania Trump, defined as in she performs oral sex on the boys’ penis and anus, as a child rapist like Henry Porter would, while trying to remove fecal matter from the boy prior to handing them over to be raped and subsequently murdered, for Supreme Court Justice Samuel Alito, who decides he would rather just have ten billion dollars instead. US Attorney for Western New York James Kennedy rapes these boys instead: 12JanCh3_1533-1638.mp3 https://drive.google.com/file/d/1AgFkDsbPbI4b5Xd3Wbz2EVNNx25kW2Oz/view?usp=sharing https://drive.google.com/file/d/1AgFkDsbPbI4b5Xd3Wbz2EVNNx25... Attorney General William Barr with FBI Deputy Director Christopher Wray rape and kill boys for billions in bribes in Buffalo, NY on 17thJan2019 750am: 18JanCh4_700.mp3 https://drive.google.com/file/d/1UIdZkS5ZVksZdHYsnHk2t5losi0N0Bp7/view?usp=sharing https://drive.google.com/file/d/1UIdZkS5ZVksZdHYsnHk2t5losi0... 18JanCh2_700.mp3 https://drive.google.com/file/d/1DFK8IAxm5pQVqZv9L518nfgP7_odB2Um/view?usp=sharing https://drive.google.com/file/d/1DFK8IAxm5pQVqZv9L518nfgP7_o... 18JanCh3_725-.Mp3 https://drive.google.com/file/d/1DG5ej59Ic8RT9UhbyMdwT0BDcKIifGGm/view?usp=sharing https://drive.google.com/file/d/1DG5ej59Ic8RT9UhbyMdwT0BDcKI... Secretary of State Michael Pompeo and Secretary of Defense Patrick Shanahan raped and killed boys on 5thJan2019 17:39 for billions in bribes: 5JanCh3_1600-1800.mp3 https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ghgmNrQvJ8WfJ2TsDVx1ruDU36hrhx6S/view?usp=sharing https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ghgmNrQvJ8WfJ2TsDVx1ruDU36h... 5JanCh2_1721-1818 mp3 https://drive.google.com/file/d/1eSlD4otX4KZqWXboQM92Mu-6J02Mjwrg/view?usp=sharing https://drive.google.com/file/d/1eSlD4otX4KZqWXboQM92Mu-6J02... Leaders of the "impeachment" effort Jerrold Nadler, Robert Mueller, and Adam Schiff all rape boys between 11:20 pm and 1:10 am: 14JanCh4_2300-0000.mp3 Nadler starts at about20mins in. https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Kuvv2Zmbw5Jw7onbRI2hCZ0M8FU66GuU/view?usp=sharing https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Kuvv2Zmbw5Jw7onbRI2hCZ0M8FU... 14JanCh2_2304-2359mp3 https://drive.google.com/file/d/1nofp5xF-aXXcCSgQVwj30KlzE9WLr1x1/view?usp=sharing https://drive.google.com/file/d/1nofp5xF-aXXcCSgQVwj30KlzE9W... Mueller at 12:25am, Schiff 12:55-ish: 15JanCh2_000-100.mp3 https://drive.google.com/file/d/1EsmHfguwBuo2PbavJ1WYyhiML62tgCkj/view?usp=sharing https://drive.google.com/file/d/1EsmHfguwBuo2PbavJ1WYyhiML62... 15JanCh2_100-200.mp3 https://drive.google.com/file/d/1NZnWRnBryalNQu2yJmfJUdS2pA_rGSFH/view?usp=sharing https://drive.google.com/file/d/1NZnWRnBryalNQu2yJmfJUdS2pA_... 15JanCh4_000-100mp3 https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ZEDJR6jb6ARpcNnWJTokBUKb2J2OQnwZ/view?usp=sharing https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ZEDJR6jb6ARpcNnWJTokBUKb2J2... 15JanCh4_100-200.mp3 https://drive.google.com/file/d/173aYWvWHH4VGht1h_2nM0IMdw746LeCL/view?usp=sharing https://drive.google.com/file/d/173aYWvWHH4VGht1h_2nM0IMdw74... Complete Media Protection:: Lester Holt, NBC Nightly News, apparently a member of the Illuminati since the 80s, along with ABC Nightly News lead anchor David Muir, stop over to the Porter studio in Buffalo on January 14, 2019 at 5:00am. They both rape and kill about two dozen boys by 6:00am. Muir starts around 515am, then Holt about 538am. Multi-billionaire Rupert Murdoch, owner of News Corp and Fox Corporation, takes his turn after Holt. Video links below: 14JanCh3_500-601.avi https://drive.google.com/file/d/1i7NKepeyG_FfdQRrM7KsnFOZOOX3o7UL/view?usp=sharing https://drive.google.com/file/d/1i7NKepeyG_FfdQRrM7KsnFOZOOX... 14JanCh2_530-600.avi https://drive.google.com/file/d/1NZzgN5ilI7ToroU5cfqMaL4o2u1RwidV/view?usp=sharing https://drive.google.com/file/d/1NZzgN5ilI7ToroU5cfqMaL4o2u1... Contributing to the media protection and reason this is not picked up by the media, CBS && Viacom owner Sumner Redstone withe Leslie Moonves rape boys following the President. 14JanCh3_700.avi https://drive.google.com/file/d/10XDw6x3ldnnQiq7oIjpdYVENyXaB4aI0/view?usp=sharing https://drive.google.com/file/d/10XDw6x3ldnnQiq7oIjpdYVENyXa... 14JanCh2_700-800.avi https://drive.google.com/file/d/1NS_e6AzEZ05wnfljkGMETGU5CWYKfRDp/view?usp=sharing https://drive.google.com/file/d/1NS_e6AzEZ05wnfljkGMETGU5CWY... 139pgPDF [updated on 16DEC2019]: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Sj9EN_pHmicKS6rFQlmk67knMdJc9cGk/view?usp=sharing
- throwaway666555 7y agoThrowaway for obvious reasons. Around 13 years ago when I was a lot younger we were in fight with other site community, none of it was for profit. We got hit by DDOS so we wanted to retaliate. We've scanned their DDOS boxes and found out the software that was running on them and vulnerability that they were using, then we hacked that box, got their tools because all was transferred without any encryption (different times). We wrote our own C&C software and started gathering our own botnet. Most of the bots were coming from datacenters so they had high bandwidth pipe. That community we were fighting with moved to offshore hosting in Malaysia. I've used our whole botnet and started DDOSing, oh man, I didn't know what kind of power we had. Whole country (Malaysia) was cut off the rest of the world for hours. Fun times, some teenager from some place in the world can cut off whole country from internet by executing one command.
- boring_twenties 7y agoDid they stop fucking with you after that?
- faitswulff 7y agoNote that this has nothing to do with the hack of the Spiderman movie documents circa 2015.
- netsharc 7y agoAn interesting aspect is how broken the Internet is (those dodgy routers and IP webcams, what other IoT devices can be exploited?), and how critical it actually is, if you can cripple a whole country's economy.
- lopmotr 7y agoIt's not really illustrative to call it a "whole country's economy". Liberia has the same population as LA but only one third of one percent of the GDP. So of course it's not going to be able to afford the protections that a typical country can.
- barli 7y agoI read some more info on him from Krebs' blog. Here's a Apache tomcat vulnscan script that he wrote when he was around 19 years old: https://www.binaryvision.co.il/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/tomcat-scan.tar.gz https://www.binaryvision.co.il/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/to...
- capitalbreeze 7y agoWhat's the law on this? Is it only illegal if I cripple a company instead of my friend's website? It seems so grey
- yesbabyyes 7y agoThis was a quite interesting and enlightening read! I was in Liberia at the time, from December 2016 through June 2017, doing a project for the Liberia Ministry of Health, and got acquainted with some people working for Cellcom. I also gained a great friend in one member of my team, who later worked briefly for Lonestar and is now employed by Orange. There aren't that many opportunities for a young developer in Liberia outside of NGOs (fickle) and the telecoms. Obviously I forwarded the article to him (coincidentally, Israel is his name). Liberia's history is quite interesting indeed, and I actually like to compare it with the state of Israel -- both are the result of an unholy alliance of people wanting to help, on the one hand, and get rid of, on the other, another people in "their" land: African descendants in the USA, and Jewish people in Europe. I went back to live in Liberia for three months earlier this year, to try and trace some ancestors of a family member. Things are dire, indeed, with an economy hit hard by the Ebola crisis, on top of years of military rule, civil war, corruption and abuse. Apart from being used for resources, mainly by Firestone (now Bridgestone) for rubber, but also iron (Arcelor Mittal) and gold (large parts of which is being smuggled to UAE), it remains a strategic interest for the US (their presence is still huge, with CIA's only listening post in Africa), meanwhile trade is controlled by the Indian and Lebanese communities. Also of interest is that some Cherokee opted to join the free African Americans, with one ending up a chief of the Vai tribe, and possibly inspiring the Vai script with knowledge of the Cherokee script, recently posted here on HN: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21737230 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21737230
- jngreenlee 7y ago>CIA's only KNOWN listening post in Africa
- yesbabyyes 7y agoPoint taken.
- atlasunshrugged 7y agoThat's super interesting. How was your experience working with the government? I had reached out a long while back to some people formerly in the govt to ask if I could volunteer some months of my time on e-gov stuff and the main response I got was along the lines of "we need to focus on agriculture and basic needs, digital isn't relevant yet."
- kpetermeni 7y agoYes, this is an example of https://xkcd.com/386/ https://xkcd.com/386/ so I'm creating an account on HN for the first time. > The attack against Liberia began in October 2016. More than a half-million security cameras around the world tried to connect to a handful of servers used by Lonestar Cell MTN, a local mobile phone operator, and Lonestar’s network was overwhelmed. Internet access for its 1.5 million customers slowed to a crawl, then stopped. On a more serious note,this is seriously exaggerated. Internet penetration(mostly mobile broadband) was 21% during this period and was split between LoneStarCell, Cellcom, the govt carrier - Libtelco and smaller ISPs. For a population of 4.5m people, 21% meant each mobile operator had less than 500k Internet subscribers. The post-apocalyptic description of the impact of the DDoS doesn't fit the feeling in that period ( Nov '16). Friends from outside Liberia reached out (ironically over WhatsApp) to ask whether Liberia's Internet was cut off. I checked and saw international media reporting an Internet shutdown which was even more confusing. After emailing a couple of friends at various ISPs and the regulator, I finally got confirmation that LoneStar was under attack. Apparently, they were keeping it a secret. It did not make national news for another 2 months until the formal complaint and lawsuits were filed. Mobile broadband was very patchy back then so perhaps people just assumed it was the usual state of affairs. Now, we have LTE on both operators and an upcoming pre-5G operator. Source: I'm from and have been based in Liberia (2015-present) and used to manage services at the national Internet exchange during that period. National Regulator: http://www.emansion.gov.lr/doc/CONSULTATION-DOCUMENT.pdf http://www.emansion.gov.lr/doc/CONSULTATION-DOCUMENT.pdf Export.Gov: https://www.export.gov/article?id=Liberia-Telecommunications-Services https://www.export.gov/article?id=Liberia-Telecommunications... Twitter Thread: https://mobile.twitter.com/tksiakor/status/794863602230558720 https://mobile.twitter.com/tksiakor/status/79486360223055872...
- tlhunter 7y agoThere's a typo in the title; the hacker is known as 'Spdrman', not 'Spiderman'.