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I didn't realise the BJP IT cell monitors hacker news! If I was Amit Shah, I'd give you raise. But I have a moral compass, so I could never be an Amit Shah. Whe

I didn't realise the BJP IT cell monitors hacker news! If I was Amit Shah, I'd give you raise. But I have a moral compass, so I could never be an Amit Shah. Whew! You have to consider CAA+NRC (National register for citizens). You have to consider both. We are the only country that is saying that your residency is under suspicion unless proven otherwise. Let that sink in for just a moment. CAA/NRC affects the poorest people -- think of the tens of millions of migrant land labourers or unlettered widows and unmarried women for a start -- who do not have documents. There are 1.9 million in Assam alone who find themselves unable to prove they belong. Embarassingly for this unembarassable govt, a large majority of the excluded are Hindus (!). If they cannot submit proof of residence, they will be put in detention camps. The non-Muslims (mostly Hindus) will be reabsorbed; I don't know how. How will they identify the muslim? The males could pull down their pants, I presume. Sigh. So the Muslims -- that comprise a huge fraction of the remaining mass -- will either be detained or deported, regardless of whether they have lived here all their lives or not. The family of an ex-President of India couldn't find their names on the acceptable list. We can't even keep electoral rolls stable; every time there's an election, someone or the other from my family is missing from the list. But they can't be deported, because no country will take them. The best we can hope is that there will be reverse migration since Bangladesh has dramatically improved its health stats and sanitation. The upshot is that we are going to be enslaving large numbers of Muslims in detention centres. The people building these centres will likely be the first 'clients'. You can put up all the links you want about persecution of Hindus and I agree that they should be given a fair hearing. But your defence is classic whataboutery. "They did it to us". BJP has become militantly anti-muslim. This is not the only example. > If you change the context by replacing "India" with "USA", act will transform into giving shelter to persecuted people in Latin America. BULLSHIT. CAA is like giving shelter to "non-latinos". Rohingya muslims in Mynamar, Ahmadiyas from Pak, Saudi teen girls escaping their families hold on them, atheists in Iran, they have all been banned from consideration. Don't speak of tolerance. ----------------- What interests me is what happens if my name is not on the NRC? What are they going to be able to do? Are they going to ask me for my newly minted internal passport every time I admit my kid to school, or go to the hospital or shop or open an account? Is this going to be the new Aadhar card? They never thought this through at all, did they?

vijaysagar 7y ago
>> I didn't realise the BJP IT cell monitors hacker news. Not an IT cell member. Just a concerned Indian citizen who has seen and been affected by Indian vote-bank politics which grants a veto on public policy to minorities (specifically one minority). Is a community a minority if it is 25% of the population? >> But I have a moral compass, so I could never be an Amit Shah. How very smug. Good for you.
n_t 7y ago
What stupid rambling is this? I'm from BJP IT cell? Because anyone in favor of CAA/NRC is BJP IT cell, right? Anyone who disagrees with you is non-secular, fanatic, isn't it? "BULLSHIT. .... Don't speak of tolerance." It is infact you who is full of shit. India has given citizenship to different demographics based on time and need - people from China (Tibet), Sri Lanka, even Rohingyas. Currently, it needs to give citizenship to Islamic neighboring countries due to immense persecution they faced. Tomorrow special clause can be made for Amhadiyas from Pak too, if situation arises. But today it is minorities from these three countries. Pesudo liberals like yourself dont spend a minute in shedding tears about minorities elsewhere. But if India takes an action, then "why only minorities?". So much of misconception is being fed by people like you about NRC. Have you even read what is NRC? How will government ascertain who is on the list? What process can be followed if one wants to challenge the list? Your questions and misinformation suggests, you haven't! But, heck! I'm ready with my pitchfork, because it's much easier to be internet warrior than do any homework. Do you know that even Hindus will be excluded in NRC list? Do you know that despite CAA, any person from any country, irrespective of caste/creed/religion can still apply for citizenship or asylum to India? Do you know people who'll be given citizenship, they are poorest of poor? Have you seen the squalid condition they currently live in? "BJP has become militantly anti-muslim." Do you know BJP has massive support of Muslims in many areas of India? I'm sure you'd argue that EVM was hacked there. Do you know BJP's first nominated president was a muslim? BJP has many spokesperson, ministers, office-bearers who are muslims? I'm sure they are brainwashed, isn't it? Do you know NRC list was proposed much before BJP came to power? Do you know earlier governments of Congress and even Gandhi were proponents of providing citizenship to religion based persecuted people from India's neighboring countries? "They never thought this through at all, did they?" Nope! Only you did! because everyone but you is a moron, right? None of your arguments were supported by any actual proof, just repeating lies. Should have thrown in words like fascist, hitler, nazi too and you sure would have gotten some TV/media coverage, if that's what your goal was. Very shameful of you!

vijaysagar 7y ago

>> I didn't realise the BJP IT cell monitors hacker news. Not an IT cell member. Just a concerned Indian citizen who has seen and been affected by Indian vote-bank politics which grants a veto on public policy to minorities (specifically one minority). Is a community a minority if it is 25% of the population? >> But I have a moral compass, so I could never be an Amit Shah. How very smug. Good for you.

n_t 7y ago

What stupid rambling is this? I'm from BJP IT cell? Because anyone in favor of CAA/NRC is BJP IT cell, right? Anyone who disagrees with you is non-secular, fanatic, isn't it? "BULLSHIT. .... Don't speak of tolerance." It is infact you who is full of shit. India has given citizenship to different demographics based on time and need - people from China (Tibet), Sri Lanka, even Rohingyas. Currently, it needs to give citizenship to Islamic neighboring countries due to immense persecution they faced. Tomorrow special clause can be made for Amhadiyas from Pak too, if situation arises. But today it is minorities from these three countries. Pesudo liberals like yourself dont spend a minute in shedding tears about minorities elsewhere. But if India takes an action, then "why only minorities?". So much of misconception is being fed by people like you about NRC. Have you even read what is NRC? How will government ascertain who is on the list? What process can be followed if one wants to challenge the list? Your questions and misinformation suggests, you haven't! But, heck! I'm ready with my pitchfork, because it's much easier to be internet warrior than do any homework. Do you know that even Hindus will be excluded in NRC list? Do you know that despite CAA, any person from any country, irrespective of caste/creed/religion can still apply for citizenship or asylum to India? Do you know people who'll be given citizenship, they are poorest of poor? Have you seen the squalid condition they currently live in? "BJP has become militantly anti-muslim." Do you know BJP has massive support of Muslims in many areas of India? I'm sure you'd argue that EVM was hacked there. Do you know BJP's first nominated president was a muslim? BJP has many spokesperson, ministers, office-bearers who are muslims? I'm sure they are brainwashed, isn't it? Do you know NRC list was proposed much before BJP came to power? Do you know earlier governments of Congress and even Gandhi were proponents of providing citizenship to religion based persecuted people from India's neighboring countries? "They never thought this through at all, did they?" Nope! Only you did! because everyone but you is a moron, right? None of your arguments were supported by any actual proof, just repeating lies. Should have thrown in words like fascist, hitler, nazi too and you sure would have gotten some TV/media coverage, if that's what your goal was. Very shameful of you!