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>At this point it almost seems more worth it to just sit back and sip water while the world slowly burns around me, but of course that is far too cynical. Is i

• krageon 7y ago
  > What other option is there As I was asking the grandparent, there is always a way to communicate it more effectively than you are doing. Maybe they have the answer! I can't know that, but I can know it is an option because people have been convinced of much more evil and much dumber things by people good at talking.
  • asdf21 7y ago
    >people have been convinced of much more evil and much dumber things by people good at talking. Sure, but it usually follows this scenario.. People ignore issues, accumulate technical or monetary debt, ignore issues, accumulate debt, ignore issues, accumulate debt, lie cheat and scheme to keep ignoring issues... start to suffer because of historical laziness and avarice... someone comes along and says, "Hey, you can solve all these problem with violence, you know..", then evil shit happens. People are not really persuaded "out" of being lazy or amoral, generally speaking. They're just given social "permission" to do bad things because of tough times.
    • krageon 7y ago
      Morality being fundamentally subjective, I don't see amoral as necessarily a bad thing. You don't need morals to have a positive impact on society. Lazy is not handy, but then again I'm not convinced that people can't be motivated out of this. Wars and other really unfriendly things cost a large amount of effort from many people. Laziness is seeing problems and doing absolutely nothing about them, not doing the wrong things. That's just being misguided.