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We treat children like that. Largely for the economic value they can provide by making them spend most of their awake life at school. If school wasn't needed,
by lopmotr 7y ago
We treat children like that. Largely for the economic value they can provide by making them spend most of their awake life at school. If school wasn't needed, it would look barbaric.
- HSO 7y agoOne of the biggest lies I never believed is that school is for education. It is for many things but education (not indoctrination or brainwashing) is not one if them. Thankfully I realized this very early.
- lern_too_spel 7y agoIs there a conspiracy of the local school board?
- Consultant32452 7y agoYes, of course. It's visible in many subtle ways. One example is uniforms. Another is how "social studies" now stands where "history" once stood. Nearly 20% of high school graduates are illiterate. A highs school diploma signals something, but it's not being educated. Some amount of education does occur, but it's incidental to social indoctrination, keeping parents' wages high by forcing kids out of the job market, etc.
- pjc50 7y ago> Nearly 20% of high school graduates are illiterate That's America's choice to have a failing system, not a universal property of schooling.
- Consultant32452 7y agoA universal property of state run schooling is that schools are literal prisons for children and for many people is the only place they'll experience violence first hand. The finer details will vary by location.
- youdontknowtho 7y agoI've been to multiple prisons for children to visit people, they aren't like schools. Also, many children are sent to adult prison and those aren't like school either. Both public and private schools can be places where people experience violence, but many more people experience violence at home first. Rein it in, minuteman.
- Consultant32452 7y agoStudents are not free to leave and will literally be thrown in a cage for truancy if they do. They don't choose the curriculum, don't get to choose who they work with, and are frequently submitted to dehumanizing treatment like having to ask permission to use the restroom. What more could you ask for in a prison?
- youdontknowtho 7y agoI bet you also think taxation is theft and Ayn Rand is a great author. I hope you never see a real prison. I'm serious about this. They are horrifying.
- Gunax 7y agoSure, just like I hope you never see a real slave. I am serious about this. It's horrifying. By the way, what do you call a well-treated slave?
- youdontknowtho 7y agoMe too? I also hope that I never encounter slavery in real life? It does happen, and if I did meet someone that was forced into slavery, I would hope that I could find help? If anything I was defending public school? What the hell are you talking about?
- Consultant32452 7y agoHere's a real prison. Notice how much more freedom the prisoners have compared to students in school. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MauMiCL7G9Y https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MauMiCL7G9Y
- kmm 7y agoI always say it as something quite benign: a state-sponsored daycare. Where else would we put our kids if not for school?
- cbm-vic-20 7y agoThe same place before widespread public schools: fields and factories.
- de_watcher 7y agoThat are local US problems. Some 3rd world countries were sticking to the idea even while going through the periods of economic disaster.
- gtufano 7y agoI'm always baffled by the way US (and on a lesser degree UK) people see schools. My (EU/Italian) point of view is that's something that could be improved (like anything) but not the evil I see through your words. There must be some significant difference in the school experience that I don't understand (for lack of knowledge, probably).
- youdontknowtho 7y agoConservatives here actually make things worse in public life as a policy decision...public schools are a perfect example...then run for election based on things being bad in public life. Since public education became a thing for all the states, conservative Christians have been opposed to it. They will moderate their message depending on the audience, but when discussed among themselves they talk about abolishing it. The really ridiculous thing is how schools are funded. I won't go into it here, but it guarantees that poor people will have a bad education.