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I still just want one simple place to stream all (most, or half, even, would be great, for that matter) of Mister Rogers' Neighborhood and pre-Elmoization Sesam
by shantly 7y ago
I still just want one simple place to stream all (most, or half, even, would be great, for that matter) of Mister Rogers' Neighborhood and pre-Elmoization Sesame Street for my kids. Anything else would be a welcome bonus but I mostly just want those.
- Ericson2314 7y agoCan you tell me more about the Elmoization of Sesame Street?
- netfl0 7y ago> It premiered on November 16, 1998, as part of the show's structural change and originally ran fifteen minutes at the end of each episode until 2009, but was then rebooted in 2017. It was designed to appeal to younger viewers and to increase ratings, which had fallen in the past decade. The segment is presented from the perspective of a three-year-old child as represented by its host, the Muppet Elmo, performed by Kevin Clash in the original series and Ryan Dillon in the 2017 reboot. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elmo%27s_World https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elmo%27s_World
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- vhold 7y agoSesame street was considerably funkier, psychedelic and kind of gritty. Elmo was a herald of a much cleaner and sort of infantilized Sesame Street. The massive commercial success of the Elmo toys especially made it feel like it had become very commercial and a lot less grassroots. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ul7X5js1vE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ul7X5js1vE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jwio5qGg8o4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jwio5qGg8o4
- MisterOctober 7y agoTotally -- the "Bridgekeeper," that animated circle bit with Phillip Glass music in the background, "123456789101112" with Pointer Sisters, Cab Calloway, and generally more realish kids and grown-ups on the set -- as a kid, I always felt like Sesame Street was cool and hip, as opposed to some "kid's show" that was talking down to me
- Spellman 7y agocopy-pasta from another of my comments For a reference essay on the shift from Big Bird to Elmo: https://kotaku.com/how-elmo-ruined-sesame-street-1746504585 https://kotaku.com/how-elmo-ruined-sesame-street-1746504585 Major thesis: "It started in small ways. A lot of stories used to be based around Big Bird, who was psychologically characterized as a six-year-old. And in a lot of ways, this was ideal—six years old was on the older end of Sesame Street’s age demographic, and Big Bird served as both a role model and a peer to his audience. Big Bird’s comparative maturity also meant that he could project a wide range of emotions—he was ‘old enough’ to understand mature concepts, such as the permanence of Mr. Hooper’s death." "Elmo stories, on the other hand, tend to affirm and celebrate the child’s perspective. Rarely, if ever, is Elmo’s innocence challenged, or is he forced to think about someone’s happiness other than his own. He spends most of his time hanging out with Zoe, Abby, Telly, and Baby Bear—Muppets who share his emotional maturity, and unlike Grover, Kermit, and Ernie, do nothing to push him. In fact, he is the de facto leader of his group—the dialogue lowers to Elmo’s level, rather than rising to an older character’s. And while this is cute and fun, it gets old fast, and it doesn’t really go anywhere. Elmo is learning about counting to four and different shapes, but he’s not learning a whole lot of life lessons."
- shitloadofbooks 7y agoWhat is "pre-elmoization" Sesame Street and why do you think it's better?
- op00to 7y agoElmo talked to children like babies. Before elmo, Sesame Street treated children as adults. They still do at times.
- ronilan 7y agoCome on. Elmo did some awesome music videos. With Norah Jones: https://youtu.be/FEzxchU4RUY https://youtu.be/FEzxchU4RUY With Katy Perry: https://youtu.be/PwZnCkoX5gI https://youtu.be/PwZnCkoX5gI And my absolute favorite, better than the original, with the Goo Goo Dolls: https://youtu.be/uGohKgNOXnU https://youtu.be/uGohKgNOXnU Edit... but... yes... the Elmo Numa Numa tops everything: https://youtu.be/2rAKszSX2tU https://youtu.be/2rAKszSX2tU (which btw, was indeed uploaded 11 years ago, but I think has an erroneous view count..)
- whatshisface 7y agoChildren's entertainment from the Mr. Rodgers era combined lessons from therapy and child psychology to act as a supplement for parenting. I'm not sure what it is now, and it's especially confusing to me why PBS would be so interested in merchandising when they're supposedly a government agency.
- darkengine 7y agoPBS receives some funding from the US government, however it is an independent non-profit corporation. My guess is they are trying to generate much-needed funds from toy sales, as well as compete for eyeballs with other more engaging children's programming ("bombardment" as Fred Rogers once called it).
- js2 7y agoPBS is not a government agency. It's a non-profit funded in part (about 50%) by the Corporation for Public Broadcasting. The rest of its funding is through donations and sponsorships. The Corporation for Public Broadcasting is also a non-profit, funded solely by the federal government, but is independent from PBS and doesn't produce any programming.
- kashprime 7y agoI wish there was a way to get all of the episodes of Mr. Rogers, especially outside of the US. Current offerings really lack the patient approach he exemplified. There's one DVD set with just 30 episodes, no digital downloads anywhere.
- shantly 7y agoDaniel Tiger’s certainly no replacement for it. And heavy auto-tuning in kids’ entertainment really bugs me. Let them hear natural human voices.
- duncan-donuts 7y agoStill gotta admit PBS’s current kid television is way better than anything on Disney/Nickelodeon. We only have an antenna a we watch a lot of PBS. I really, really dislike the kids shows on Disney/Nickelodeon
- spookthesunset 7y agoAgree. Paw Patrol is like crack for kids. It is mostly addictive filler designed to get them to buy a bunch of toys. The difference between Paw Patrol and Daniel Tiger is night and day.
- humanrebar 7y agoDunno. Paw Patrol demonstrates a lot of teamwork and proactive attitudes.
- malvosenior 7y agoI just want the original Reading Rainbow. I can't find it anywhere, if anyone knows how to attain a digital copy, I'd love to hear it.
- kbenson 7y agoWell, there's basically an adult (or, not aimed at children, at least) Reading Rainbow he does now as a podcast called Levar Burton Reads[1], so there's that. 1: http://www.levarburtonpodcast.com/ http://www.levarburtonpodcast.com/
- VirgilShelton 7y agoYou can buy the DVDs on EBay https://www.ebay.com/i/352893270127?chn=ps&norover=1&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-117182-37290-0&mkcid=2&itemid=352893270127&targetid=313776934696&device=m&mktype=pla&googleloc=9030614&poi=&campaignid=1669934606&mkgroupid=65058347459&rlsatarget=pla-313776934696&abcId=1123856&merchantid=6481594&gclid=CjwKCAiAluLvBRASEiwAAbX3GelR_Xb9ARVXE0M5fke14_-1WiQ2o2lEgy_E4Wjm_wvEihZF9uV-sxoCkLgQAvD_BwE https://www.ebay.com/i/352893270127?chn=ps&norover=1&mkevt=1...
- malvosenior 7y agoSadly those are from the 90s Reading Rainbow, not the original 80s series.
- claudiulodro 7y agoThere are a bunch of seasons available free for Prime members on Amazon Prime Video. I've been watching it with my kids the last few weeks, and it's held up well!
- malvosenior 7y agoI know but those are also the second series (90s based). The original 80s series seems to be lost to time which is incredibly sad considering its impact and popularity.
- mixmastamyk 7y agoIndeed, and why isn't the Frontline back catalog on Netflix and other outlets?
- jedimastert 7y agoIf you already happen to have Amazon Prime, A lot of it is on Prime video.
- aantix 7y agoI wish I could find a source for Mister Wizard’s World..
- balls187 7y agoHBONow/Go/Max has a lot of Classic Seasame Street. Not all but many episodes.
- sjg007 7y agoHBO is your place.