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A City Took Fluoride Out of Its Drinking Water

25 points by hsnewman 7y ago

hereme888 7y ago
ScienceAlert.com - a science website with their own agenda. Fluoridation only helps certain communities, such as those who consume lots of refined sugar and don't brush their teeth regularly (even with non-fluoridated toothpaste), or have an unfavorable balance in their oral flora. Sodium fluoride is a neurotoxin, endocrine and immune system disruptor. ~27 human studies, and >100 animal studies link water fluoridation practices to ~7 IQ points less (according to Harvard's public health website), and brain damage (such as ADHD). 7 IQ points can drastically change a person's life.
- nkrisc 7y ago
  127 studies and you don't link to one of them?
  - StanislavPetrov 7y ago
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3491930/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3491930/
  - hereme888 7y ago
    Mentioning Harvard's public health website should have made your search pretty easy. I'm not going to link 127 studies.
- zorronimous 7y ago
  Its good for americans britons and australians. For everyone else its just bad. Regardles? Forced medication? No thanks
- junar 7y ago
  This is apparently still an area where more research is necessary, so I would hesitate to jump to conclusions. The hypothesis is that the greatest risks are during pregnancy, so reducing ingestion during pregnancy "wouldn't be unreasonable", but avoiding it indefinitely is probably too drastic. https://www.cnn.com/2019/08/19/health/fluoride-neurotoxin-canada-study/index.html https://www.cnn.com/2019/08/19/health/fluoride-neurotoxin-ca...
  - hereme888 7y ago
    I agree. I use fluoridated toothpaste from time to time. I also think the neurological damage is greatest in the younger populations. I will add that sodium fluoride mainly accumulates in our bodies probably through fluoridated water: bathing in and breathing hot shower vapor,
- ebcode 7y ago
  > Sodium fluoride is a neurotoxin Indeed. So now we need another science website with a different agenda to go and measure IQ points there.
- copperx 7y ago
  True. 7 IQ points become insignificant as you go above 100, but they are pretty significant if you have borderline retardation.
  - hereme888 7y ago
    Based on my understanding of IQ, 7 points is still VERY significant above 100, but perhaps not above 130. From what I've learned from psychologists, an IQ of 100 makes one able to comfortably perform technical assembly line work, but from 105-110 you can handle being the manager.
OneGuy123 7y ago
Hit piece. Why would dentists support flouride if it actually helps? It would only destroy their profits. Why do dentist cheer for flouride so much but there are ZERO loud campaigns from dentists to stop eating sugar, the actual cause of teeth rot? Incentives. If flouride actually worked dentists wouldn't be pushing for it.
- hsnewman 7y ago
  Ok conspiracy guy, here: https://www.mouthhealthy.org/en/nutrition/food-tips/sugary-drinks https://www.mouthhealthy.org/en/nutrition/food-tips/sugary-d... "Brought to you by the ADA, the American Dental Association".
- nkrisc 7y ago
  What dentist wouldn't tell you to stop eating sweets? Have you ever been to a dentist?
pdx_flyer 7y ago
I live in Portland but I'm from somewhere that fluoridated the water. Every time I go to the dentist here they immediately know I am not originally from the area because of the lack of cavities.

25 points by hsnewman 7y ago

ScienceAlert.com - a science website with their own agenda. Fluoridation only helps certain communities, such as those who consume lots of refined sugar and don't brush their teeth regularly (even with non-fluoridated toothpaste), or have an unfavorable balance in their oral flora. Sodium fluoride is a neurotoxin, endocrine and immune system disruptor. ~27 human studies, and >100 animal studies link water fluoridation practices to ~7 IQ points less (according to Harvard's public health website), and brain damage (such as ADHD). 7 IQ points can drastically change a person's life.

nkrisc 7y ago
127 studies and you don't link to one of them?
- StanislavPetrov 7y ago
  https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3491930/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3491930/
- hereme888 7y ago
  Mentioning Harvard's public health website should have made your search pretty easy. I'm not going to link 127 studies.
zorronimous 7y ago
Its good for americans britons and australians. For everyone else its just bad. Regardles? Forced medication? No thanks
junar 7y ago
This is apparently still an area where more research is necessary, so I would hesitate to jump to conclusions. The hypothesis is that the greatest risks are during pregnancy, so reducing ingestion during pregnancy "wouldn't be unreasonable", but avoiding it indefinitely is probably too drastic. https://www.cnn.com/2019/08/19/health/fluoride-neurotoxin-canada-study/index.html https://www.cnn.com/2019/08/19/health/fluoride-neurotoxin-ca...
- hereme888 7y ago
  I agree. I use fluoridated toothpaste from time to time. I also think the neurological damage is greatest in the younger populations. I will add that sodium fluoride mainly accumulates in our bodies probably through fluoridated water: bathing in and breathing hot shower vapor,
ebcode 7y ago
> Sodium fluoride is a neurotoxin Indeed. So now we need another science website with a different agenda to go and measure IQ points there.
copperx 7y ago
True. 7 IQ points become insignificant as you go above 100, but they are pretty significant if you have borderline retardation.
- hereme888 7y ago
  Based on my understanding of IQ, 7 points is still VERY significant above 100, but perhaps not above 130. From what I've learned from psychologists, an IQ of 100 makes one able to comfortably perform technical assembly line work, but from 105-110 you can handle being the manager.

OneGuy123 7y ago

Hit piece. Why would dentists support flouride if it actually helps? It would only destroy their profits. Why do dentist cheer for flouride so much but there are ZERO loud campaigns from dentists to stop eating sugar, the actual cause of teeth rot? Incentives. If flouride actually worked dentists wouldn't be pushing for it.

hsnewman 7y ago
Ok conspiracy guy, here: https://www.mouthhealthy.org/en/nutrition/food-tips/sugary-drinks https://www.mouthhealthy.org/en/nutrition/food-tips/sugary-d... "Brought to you by the ADA, the American Dental Association".
nkrisc 7y ago
What dentist wouldn't tell you to stop eating sweets? Have you ever been to a dentist?

pdx_flyer 7y ago

I live in Portland but I'm from somewhere that fluoridated the water. Every time I go to the dentist here they immediately know I am not originally from the area because of the lack of cavities.